Author Topic: Zamex_Elements Stealing Sanctus' Grapple Knife Map?  (Read 2004 times)

Zamex_Elements isn't known much for his little troubles and annoyances but it appears he has been trying to steal Sanctus' Grapple Knife Map.

This is Sanctus' Grapple Knife Map, the "victim":
http://imgur.com/7BRX6TV

Zamex's Map:
http://imgur.com/WABOMe9

As you can see, the map Zamex is using for his server is exactly the same layout as Sanctus', except re-skinned and painted with new team colors. Patterns were changed as well so people wouldn't tell the obvious difference.

Now I may ask, why was this done? I personally wish I knew, but to be honest, this seems an innapropriate time to make another grapple knife server, for Sanctus' is up. Sure, his server does go down from time to time and some people try to host a grapple sniper tdm or another grapple knife. That is understandable. This however, is not, for Sanctus' is clearly up, and if Zamex were to try and host a grapple server, at least be a little more original with the map layout. The whole scenario just seems as if Zamex were trying to steal Sanctus' idea.

/discuss

inb4"meh all grapple knife maps are the same anyway"

Sanctus has been hosting his server for quite a while now there is no need for another server. His server has good connection, a good map, and even has extras like levels and different types of knifes. I feel another server is unreasonable and not needed. /support

It really bugs me how lazy and stupid the knifing community is.
The same exact map has been used for 3-4 years, and this apparently set a precedent for all non-major knifing servers to use the exact same or similar layout. Anybody can host a knifing server, it's extremely simple and hard to forget up, but you'd think that for once somebody would break the stuffty, "map meta" and make something that isn't 8x and 16x plates. There's just no effort or originality, all the way back to Count's server.

Patterns were changed as well so people wouldn't tell the obvious difference.
the patterns were actually the same, just the colors were different
I accused him of this and then he banned me...

It's also worth saying that if you join any knifing server from non-notable people it's going to have stuff admins and a stuff map.

Source: Years of joining them.

"meh all grapple knife maps are the same anyway"
I know this isn't true, but it sure feels that way.

New Update:
It appears Zamex is "bored" of Sanctus' and feels the need to copy the map to supposedly make the place better. Also "taking players is now the same as stealing" -Zamex 2015

http://imgur.com/p1gLp9o,GW5kP93,BCfRiSw#0

If you were bored of a server just do something else or better yet, least build a new map.

So basically when Sanctus first started hosting he gave credits to cat123 for the map so everyone knew it wasn't his, and since Sanctus Rem has used the map for so long its kind of became a trademark of his server. In-turn Zamex_Elements starts hosting a server using that map and gives no credits to anyone.

the patterns were actually the same, just the colors were different
I accused him of this and then he banned me...
I was banned for the same reason.

tbh I prefer xanex's coloration of the map

OT: those maps are very obviously identical, /support

I guessed his admin password lol


This may have been avoided if he added any credit in any form to sanctus, cat123, count, or others.

NOEDIT:
tbh I prefer zamex's coloration of the map

OT: those maps are very obviously identical, /support

Well, to be perfectly honest, they aren't 100% exactly the same (besides the altered colors and patters). Zamex's version has that square structure that can be seen to the right of the platforms in the picture. Said structure is completely absent from Sanctus' map. At the same time, there is some random stuff to the left in Sanctus' map that isn't present in Zamex.

Not that i'm saying Zamex is innocent, but that style of Grapple Knife map has been used for a long time and by so many different users, to the point where any map of that type has become bland and boring. However, no matter how different the many maps looked, they all share a basic, similar design with each other. For all we know, Zamex's Grapple Knife map could just as easily be another map in a long line of similar, bland, maps.

as long as hes not claiming he made it i dont see the problem and

"meh all grapple knife maps are the same anyway"