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Author Topic: "Don't Stay in School"  (Read 14015 times)

this video offends me because i like maths :*(

I had to learn those things myself because I was taught about stuff I never needed to know like how to find the slope in a fraction.
Want to know the rate at which your account balance is increasing at a specific moment in time? Surprise, bitch. You need a derivative.

also, there are many subjects in school because it gives kids various options as to what they wanna be when they grow up. imagine if school just taught about surviving in the real world and nothing else: there wouldn't be scientists, programmers, historians, artists, future teachers, etc. school is there to give kids general knowledge about every possible position before letting them choose their own

Nope I'm grateful for knowing as much as I do thanks to school. So useful for practically everything

Well he has a point.
But this dude looks too edgy to take serious.
He also looks like a woman

We truly have a mega stuffty attitude regarding education. Hopefully FEMA will start filling those totally real death camps up with all these idiots.

this is by far the edgiest thing i've ever seen in my life and i have seen a full playthrough of hatred

the problem is the generation of parents that don't give their kids basic life skills and encourage anti-learning attitudes, a school can't do anything when its students don't even give a stuff.

School is actually only about 50% of the waking year (give or take based on summer vacation length) so
it is completely reasonable to think that parents will be competent enough to give their kids 1 year-long class's worth of education over half of their childhood
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 10:17:58 AM by Nomel »

If school hadn't taught me such a wide range of things I'd never have anything interesting to say and talk about here.

I mean school determines whether or not you'll be able to eat every night when you're an adult so i'd hang in there.

The method of delivery ruins his good points. If anyone is actually influenced by this it will be in a negative way.

Ok. I just woke up, now. Let me reiterate to the people saying stuff like
this video offends me because i like maths :*(
This video is not saying that math should be removed, this video is not saying that school is stupid. This video is stating that most of the things that we learn in school, is useless and non applicable to the real world. That still doesn't mean that the subjects are stupid, but it does mean that students should choose what to be taught for what they want to be, because chances are, if you want to be a scientist, you wont need to know Spanish. The entire point in the video is to recognize the outdated school curriculum we use, and to recognize the things that we are not taught, but should be.
the problem is the generation of parents that don't give their kids basic life skills and encourage anti-learning attitudes, a school can't do anything when its students don't even give a stuff.

School is actually only about 50% of the waking year (give or take based on summer vacation length) so
it is completely reasonable to think that parents will be competent enough to give their kids 1 year-long class's worth of education over half of their childhood
So you are basically saying that the life skills you will need to know, is based on luck? How how about the millions of students without parents? How about the millions of people that just have bad parents, that don't give a stuff. Why should basic life skills be taught by parents, when they can easily be taught in school?

The message is good, the video title is stuff.

Ok. I just woke up, now. Let me reiterate to the people saying stuff likeThis video is not saying that math should be removed, this video is not saying that school is stupid. This video is stating that most of the things that we learn in school, is useless and non applicable to the real world. That still doesn't mean that the subjects are stupid, but it does mean that students should choose what to be taught for what they want to be, because chances are, if you want to be a scientist, you wont need to know Spanish.
What about the students who don't know what they want to be?
It wasn't until I was 12 years into my education that I knew where I wanted to go, after compulsory education and at the end of my further education. Prior to that I wasn't sure if I wanted to be a lawyer, a pharmacologist, a biologist, a teacher, an historian or what.
I certainly couldn't have made a specific choice about what I should be learning way back when I was just 12-15 years old.

And then there's always the fact that I could choose wrong.
I studied Chemistry for 2 years, while wondering if I could get a job in chemistry, when I learnt that actually I'm quite stuff at chemistry when it gets to higher levels.
If I hadn't have been taught history earlier on (because I thought I was always going to be great at chemistry and history would be a waste of time) then I wouldn't have known I still had an area I was good at and could study in.
Without trying things you won't know what you're good at, hence why schools let you try lots of things to a certain level of knowledge.


There should be more classes teaching everyday skills, like doing taxes, or voting, or budgeting a household.
But not at the expense of teaching a range of career-based subjects.

If you haven't heard about this rap about the school systems, what they teach, and why they teach it, then watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC0

If you just watched it, and are going to reply / comment saying that he is a hippe, and all of his points are stupid, or if you disagree with ANYTHING he states, then watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIu7pE0lBA


This topic is not to spread popularity, but I want to know what you guys think of the rap / what your opinions are on this subject.
I agree fully on what he says, how about you?


If you are too lazy to watch both the main rap, and the reacting video, there here is the summary:
No, this is not about not staying in this school, this is about people in schools learning things that they will never use in the real world, and not learning things that they will need to learn. This does not mean removing everything completely, but instead letting the students choose what they want to learn for their career. Some of the points that the guy in the video brought up, is that he will never need to know how many isotopes there are which he was taught, but will need to know how to raise a child, do taxes, ect. You may be saying something like
"That's what parents are for", or "That's why you need to self educate yourself" but his exact point still stands, that we do not learn the things that we would need or want to know.


here are the lyrics so you don'tI wasn't taught how to get a job
but I can remember dissecting a frog
I wasn't taught how to pay tax
but I know loads about Shakespeare's classics

I was never taught how to vote
they devoted that time to defining isotopes
I wasn't taught how to look after my health
but mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

Never spent a lesson on current events
instead I studied The Old American West
I was never taught what laws there are.
I was never taught what laws there are.

Let me repeat - I was not taught the laws for the country I live in,
but I know how Henry the VIII killed his women.
Divorced beheaded died, divorced beheaded survived
glad that's in my head instead of financial advice

I was shown the wavelengths of different hues of light
but I was never taught my human rights
Apparently there's 30, do you know them? I don't
Why the hell can't we both recite them by rote?!

I know igneous, metamorphic and sedimentary rocks
Yet I don't know squat about trading stocks
Or how money works at all - where does it come from?
Who controls it? How does the thing that motivates the world function?

not taught how to budget and disburse my earnings
I was too busy rehearsing cursive.
Didn't learn how much it costs to raise a kid or what an affidavit is
but I spent days on what the quadratic equation is

negative b plus or minus the square root of b squared
minus 4ac over 2a
That's insane, that's absolutely insane.
They made me learn that over basic first aid

How to recognise the most deadly Mental disorders // or
diseases with preventable causes // How to buy a
house with a mortgage // if I could afford it
‘cause abstract maths was deemed more important

than advice that would literally save thousands of lives
but it's cool, ‘cause now I could tell you if the number of unnecessary deaths caused by that choice was prime.

Never taught present day practical medicines,
but I was told what the ancient hippocratic method is
"I've got a headache, the pain is ceaseless
what should I take?" umm... maybe try some leeches?

"Could we discuss domestic abuse and get the facts
or how to help my depressed friend with their mental state?"
Ummm... no but learn mental maths
because "you won't have a calculator with you every day!"

They say it's not the kids, the parents are the problem
Then if you taught the kids to parent that's the problem solved then!
All this advice about using a condom
but none for when you actually have a kid when you want one

I'm only fluent in this language, for serious?
The rest of the world speaks two, do you think I'm an idiot?
They chose the solar over the political system
So like a typical citizen now I don't know what I'm voting on

which policies exist, or how to make them change
mais oui, je parle un peu de Francais
So at 18, I was expected to elect a representative
For a system I had never ever ever ever been presented with

But I won't take it
I'll tell everyone my childhood was wasted
I'll share it everywhere how I was "educated"
And insist these pointless things
#DontStayInSchool

I actually just watched this stuff a few days ago. Idk why his system is so horrible. We learned First Aid, how to buy credit cards, insurance, invest wisely, etc. and just about everything else he complained about. We were taught foreign languages, local politics, love ed, and all that good stuff. It's still good that we know all the little tiny things I think.