"Don't Stay in School"

[General]

Completely agree with sir dooble, I personally feel the only reason humanities are taught at a minimum at school is because there is simply not enough time to teach them as well as academical subjects.

Humanities are easily teachable by parents or caregivers anyway, and nobody really needs a qualification in them.

School may be a burden but so is working. You'll find that once you leave school life doesn't really improve like you though it would. School is a nice way to prepare you for a job as well as the demands of life.

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[Dragonoid.Slayer]

What about the students who don't know what they want to be?
It wasn't until I was 12 years into my education that I knew where I wanted to go, after compulsory education and at the end of my further education. Prior to that I wasn't sure if I wanted to be a lawyer, a pharmacologist, a biologist, a teacher, an historian or what.
I certainly couldn't have made a specific choice about what I should be learning way back when I was just 12-15 years old.

And then there's always the fact that I could choose wrong.
I studied Chemistry for 2 years, while wondering if I could get a job in chemistry, when I learnt that actually I'm quite stuff at chemistry when it gets to higher levels.
If I hadn't have been taught history earlier on (because I thought I was always going to be great at chemistry and history would be a waste of time) then I wouldn't have known I still had an area I was good at and could study in.
Without trying things you won't know what you're good at, hence why schools let you try lots of things to a certain level of knowledge.


There should be more classes teaching everyday skills, like doing taxes, or voting, or budgeting a household.
But not at the expense of teaching a range of career-based subjects.

Then out of curiosity of what you would later on want to do, you would choose to take all the classes, and eventually choose what you would want to be, and at that point learn the other necessary life skills.

Completely agree with sir dooble, I personally feel the only reason humanities are taught at a minimum at school is because there is simply not enough time to teach them as well as academical subjects.

Humanities are easily teachable by parents or caregivers anyway, and nobody really needs a qualification in them.

So why are these select schools learning the minimum of what you would need to know in life? I am almost 100% sure that there are enough teachers, and time for the necessary things to be taught. Even now, towards the end of a hichschool year, you can literally NOT GO TO CLASS, because you have enough valid points, when instead you could be learning how to pay taxes, have kids, and stuff like that. But that wouldn't be a problem if you didn't that, because you would be choosing the classes you want to take. Like if I want to be a biochemist, then I wouldn't be taking history, or spanish. Even so, Spanish is taught at the middle school level, so if you decide not to take Spanish... then don't take Spanish. Why should you be forced into something that you will literally never use, or want to use?

School may be a burden but so is working. You'll find that once you leave school life doesn't really improve like you though it would. School is a nice way to prepare you for a job as well as the demands of life.

Yet again, it is not that school is bad, it is that students are forced into things that they do not want to to, which is exactly why they do not have other necessary life skills on the curriculum. It is simply, that why would school "prepare" you for something you don't want to peruse? You literally waste hours upon hours learning things you won't use.

[General]

So why are these select schools learning the minimum of what you would need to know in life? I am almost 100% sure that there are enough teachers, and time for the necessary things to be taught. Even now, towards the end of a hichschool year, you can literally NOT GO TO CLASS, because you have enough valid points, when instead you could be learning how to pay taxes, have kids, and stuff like that.

Because paying taxes is easy and can be learnt in like a day by parents/caregivers or even yourself. School is not there to potty train students, it's there to aid you in getting a job.

But that wouldn't be a problem if you didn't that, because you would be choosing the classes you want to take. Like if I want to be a biochemist, then I wouldn't be taking history, or spanish. Even so, Spanish is taught at the middle school level, so if you decide not to take Spanish... then don't take Spanish. Why should you be forced into something that you will literally never use, or want to use?

Because kids are too young to make a decision about what they want to be. You specialise as you mature, at a young age you're given a taster of everything to know what you want to be when you're older. If you were never given a taste in Geography how would you know that you would want to specialise in that and most of all how would you know it's a subject you could potentially be good at?

[Akio]

Did you really just say that history and Spanish aren't necessary even if you don't want to use them? Jesus Christ, I should've stopped taking you seriously on page 1.

[·:Taboo:·]

Alternatively, hold all of your conversations with him in Spanish. Or Chinese and German, in my case.

[Akio]

If you want to land a job out of any degree, you would need to know Spanish.
There's a reason why most US colleges require 4 years of foreign language.

[General]

Este guarro dice que espanol no es importante... El mundo no solamente habla en Ingles sabe?

[·:Taboo:·]

If you want to land a job out of any degree, you would need to know Spanish.
There's a reason why most US colleges require 4 years of foreign language.

I already know Spanish, though, and while Spanish is fairly useful at a local level, German and Chinese are incredibly useful at global levels. Hell, I was working for a German company in most of high school, it was very useful being like the only guy who could directly communicate with our superiors, even it was still a little clumsy.

[SetGaming]

If you want to land a job out of any degree, you would need to know Spanish.
There's a reason why most US colleges require 4 years of foreign language.

Actually, most require one or two years. Not to nitpick, but only the really fancy expensive colleges require 3 - 4 yrs.

[Akio]

I already know Spanish, though, and while Spanish is fairly useful at a local level, German and Chinese are incredibly useful at global levels. Hell, I was working for a German company in most of high school, it was very useful being like the only guy who could directly communicate with our superiors, even it was still a little clumsy.

absolutely true.
English, Spanish, and Mandarin Chinese are the most important languages to learn IMO because of the amazing global value they have.

Actually, most require one or two years. Not to nitpick, but only the really fancy expensive colleges require 3 - 4 yrs.

I guess, the point still stands though.

[SetGaming]

I guess, the point still stands though.

Sure does. Even though I hate language in general, there's no way in hell I'm not taking Spanish.

[sir dooble]

Then out of curiosity of what you would later on want to do, you would choose to take all the classes, and eventually choose what you would want to be, and at that point learn the other necessary life skills.

I didn't quite understand this.
Are you suggesting that the system should be the following?
1. Go to school and be educated in life skills for several years (e.g, taxes, voting, law, stocks, first aid, etc...)
2. Optionally choose to take all regular subjects (maths, english, science, IT, MFL, history, geography, etc...) in order to find which ones you like and wish to follow.
3. Follow that career path.


Because that is ludicrous.
These "life-skills" that you want to learn are as incredibly varied as the subjects already taught at school. To teach all of them in ample detail would leave no room to teach current subjects, OR you'd be in education for even longer, either at the taxpayers expense or your own (and it couldn't be your own expense because you have no experience in skills to even get a job).

If you learnt life-skills entirely over regular school subjects you'd leave school knowing how to deal with money, but NOT how to earn it. Because no one will ever give you even a slightly higher-paying job if you have no knowledge of maths or english or basic science, let alone if you want to go down a career that requires a specific education, such as law, history, acting, carpentry, business, engineering or anything else.


At most there should be a life-skills or home-economics class taught at a basic level, in the same way other subjects are at school, where you can learn how to budget, vote, pay taxes, cook and clean, etc...
But not in place of any other subjects.
Because ultimately life-skills are NOT going to get you a job.
And let's be honest, you don't even have to worry about paying taxes if you can't even get yourself an income. Emplyoment is definitely the priority.

[Maui69]

This video is not saying that math should be removed, this video is not saying that school is stupid. This video is stating that most of the things that we learn in school, is useless and non applicable to the real world. That still doesn't mean that the subjects are stupid, but it does mean that students should choose what to be taught for what they want to be, because chances are, if you want to be a scientist, you wont need to know Spanish. The entire point in the video is to recognize the outdated school curriculum we use, and to recognize the things that we are not taught, but should be.

um
i didnt say anything contesting that

though i will say i do not agree, but i can't be bothered to argue my position right now sorry

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

Why should you be forced into something that you will literally never use, or want to use?

spanish and history are pretty useful things to know, you dont get to claim that language of all things is a subject "you will literally never use". don't be stupid. dont take your advice from he-she rappers on the internet who communicate exclusively in clickbait.

[Akio]

There's really no point in arguing w/ Dragonoid because he has no idea what he's talking about.