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Windows 7 vs Windows 10

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43 (37.7%)
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71 (62.3%)

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I was going to put "Disgusting research you don't want anyone knowing you watched" on that list, but i decided against it.

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wrong

Windows 10 has been working smoothly for me.

They are obliged to give information to the correct authorities should they come across something worth giving to them. The rest of the data just goes straight to Microsoft.

alsomicrosoft can give away data to other companies should they sell pieces of their company to someone else. So no the information does not just go to the government or themselves, it goes to whoever they feel like.

Second of all, you can have all the protection you want, some script kiddy or hacker will find a way around all the protection Microsoft put in place.
Exactly, to the authorities/government who would really only use it to stop crimes.

Also what they're talking about in that second quote is when they get purchased, work with someone else in a huge manner or merge with another business, none of which would happen in the next few years anyways. Also it says certain countries, this will LIKELY exclude europe and the entirety of NATO.

I get the whole concern about personal info, but come on, people who are constantly complaining about win10s privacy and trying to use that ground as one big giant excuse to hate windows 10 is just sad, google, apple, plenty of companies and softwares collect info, and even then its not personal information, just stop being so paranoid because of a simple privacy policy, hell atleast they said they would collect data rather than being hush hush about it.

dont even get me started on the conspiracy theorists using quotes from books like 1984 as proof this is "the Illuminatis secret mind control ray!!!", seriously, seeing people build a fortress out of tinfoil and excuses is more annoying to hear about than you think, especially when you hear it more than once a day

what the forget are you on about
we don't want our operating systems taking info like that
i don't leave my entire collection of personal data on google and i don't use apple for a reason

what the forget are you on about
we don't want our operating systems taking info like that
i don't leave my entire collection of personal data on google and i don't use apple for a reason
im just annoyed that a bunch of people are tin foil hatting constantly

im not mentioning names but they know who they are

TBH from what I've seen out of both Windows 10 AND 7, I'd either go with Windows 10 or 8 any day. 7 had a nice layout but was extremely bulky and slow to boot (the machine I used took about 30 minutes to boot).

And yes, while Windows 8 had the infamous Start menu, the functionality was there and within a week or two I got comfortable with it. It was also extremely lightweight.

As for Windows 10, it's pretty nice so far. It takes the functionality of Windows 7 and merges it with the performance of Windows 8.
Disclaimer: These views are my own and I am not responsible for any buttblasting here.

TBH from what I've seen out of both Windows 10 AND 7, I'd either go with Windows 10 or 8 any day. 7 had a nice layout but was extremely bulky and slow to boot (the machine I used took about 30 minutes to boot).
what
my windows 7 takes like 15 seconds to boot and when it was on an HDD it took 20 - 25 seconds to boot to a usable state

imo windows 10 shouldn't even exist

i wish threads like these were bannable to prevent tin foiling and spreading of fear. yes we get it, you all like your data and i like my own data myself, but society is moving in a way that almost no one can stop. im not trying to be dissmissive, but almost everyone of these threads ever created had a huge burnout about privacy issues.

the thread is about what os is better not about who has the bigger tinfoil hat

the thread is about what os is better not about who has the bigger tinfoil hat

look nal you can't just go around banging your pots saying "lmao you just have a tinfoil hat"

im seeing more proof from one side than the other bro

look nal you can't just go around banging your pots saying "lmao you just have a tinfoil hat"

im seeing more proof from one side than the other bro
We can't disprove that Microsoft isn't sneakily stealing all your data, however just as much as others can't prove that they actually are doing anything with your data. It's a philosophical debate at best, one that doesn't need evidence to continue apparently.

And what is the NSA doing that's so bad? You never actually followed up on this.

They also never said anything about disclosing it either.
And trust me, the government can decrypt your device or get the key via the said NSA backdoor. Has it ever actually been proven that they can't? Again, Apple still had an intentional NSA backdoor and you still wont attack them because...

...Your encryption key didn't get sent to apple???
Even if you're not against data collection, they've already broken US law on several occasions, such as the head of the NSA lying in congress. Their data collection PRISM Program was also highly illegal, again whether or not you're against it. They don't care about the law and they don't care about peoples constitutional rights. Even so, that's irrelevant to my main point.

They have talked about disclosure, and it's right in the statement I mentioned that's in their privacy policy. "Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data" is how it starts. I'm not in the business of conspiracy theories here, only stated legal fact. If someone was really so hyper-paranoid that they believed that all windows and mac machines were backdoored by the nsa (which according to the conspiracy theories they all are starting from windows 95) then they won't be using it in the first place, so the point is kinda pointless.

I'm also unsure you know how encryption works. The rumor that the NSA can just magically crack 256-bit or even 128-bit encryption is hysterically false. The biggest encryption crack ever done was only around 60 bits, and the biggest supercomputers in the world could only do 80 bits tops, even given tens of years of computing time. If you don't have the encryption key, you're never going to get the data.

Just to give you an idea of how big 128 bits is, even with the best known attack on AES, it would take on average 2126.1 decryption operations. At 43,750,000 (700MB/s) decryptions per second per core, the power of the top 3 supercomputers in the world combined would take 15,772,869,380,176,035.3 (that's 15 quadrillion) years to complete.
We can't disprove that Microsoft isn't sneakily stealing all your data, however just as much as others can't prove that they actually are doing anything with your data. It's a philosophical debate at best, one that doesn't need evidence to continue apparently.
The point is that they've specifically stated that they have the power to, and there's plenty of incentive for them to. It would be silly to assume they're not going to use the power they've given themselves and are incentivized to use considering they're a company that ultimately strives towards profits.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2015, 07:12:33 PM by Ipquarx »

imo windows 10 shouldn't even exist
imo you shouldn't even exist
sarcasm don't stab me pls