Steam is "deprecating" MAC OS X 10.6 in November

[Space1255]

Umm, there is such thing as El Captian 10.11 now?
Wait, some Macs can't update that high...
nvm

Wait, really? That's a shame.

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[Juliun03]

Just get a PC

[TableSalt]

glad I got 10.9.5 then

[Mule]

Guys, You dont expect to run windows 10 on your 2005 piece of stuff. This apple hate might seem "reasonable" and that all started back when they made one dramatic change; When they went from IBM power PC to Intel x86. That started this stuff fling fest that continues today. OSX updates are normally always free anymore, unless your hardware cant run it. To keep their OS as light as possible, they use exclusive instruction sets and modify their kernel for newer architectures. It simply isnt the same as windows, It is comparing a golden delicious apple to a fuji apple, it is possible... but not realistic. Windows discontinued support for windows XP and when they did that they disowned it entirely, any apps that were once usable with XP no matter what it was if it was made by windows are now not downloadable anymore, to include service packs and essential upgrades. Dont criticize some other OS because you want to cling onto your own stuff and fanboy about it. They are different get the forget over it.

They are not just an OS manufacturer, they are also a hardware manufacturer. Meaning they also have that side to struggle with, and they are going to do whatever makes money while keeping customers.

[Headcrab Zombie]

"Deprecated" doesn't mean "it's not going to work anymore"
It means "It'll continue working until it stops working, then it won't be fixed"

[Space1255]

Guys, You dont expect to run windows 10 on your 2005 piece of stuff. This apple hate might seem "reasonable" and that all started back when they made one dramatic change; When they went from IBM power PC to Intel x86. That started this stuff fling fest that continues today. OSX updates are normally always free anymore, unless your hardware cant run it. To keep their OS as light as possible, they use exclusive instruction sets and modify their kernel for newer architectures. It simply isnt the same as windows, It is comparing a golden delicious apple to a fuji apple, it is possible... but not realistic. Windows discontinued support for windows XP and when they did that they disowned it entirely, any apps that were once usable with XP no matter what it was if it was made by windows are now not downloadable anymore, to include service packs and essential upgrades. Dont criticize some other OS because you want to cling onto your own stuff and fanboy about it. They are different get the forget over it.

They are not just an OS manufacturer, they are also a hardware manufacturer. Meaning they also have that side to struggle with, and they are going to do whatever makes money while keeping customers.

Words cannot describe how afraid I was to say this. Thank you.

[TomTheGeek²]

This is the weakest excuse I've seen for Apple bashing on this forum. This is Valve's decision to drop support for a platform that, according to multiple sources I googled, accounts for less than 10% of all current OS X installs.

It's not worth supporting an outdated OS version which a vast minority of the already minority OS X users are running.

10.6 is like so 2009 anyways.

[TableSalt]

Guys, You dont expect to run windows 10 on your 2005 piece of stuff. This apple hate might seem "reasonable" and that all started back when they made one dramatic change; When they went from IBM power PC to Intel x86. That started this stuff fling fest that continues today. OSX updates are normally always free anymore, unless your hardware cant run it. To keep their OS as light as possible, they use exclusive instruction sets and modify their kernel for newer architectures. It simply isnt the same as windows, It is comparing a golden delicious apple to a fuji apple, it is possible... but not realistic. Windows discontinued support for windows XP and when they did that they disowned it entirely, any apps that were once usable with XP no matter what it was if it was made by windows are now not downloadable anymore, to include service packs and essential upgrades. Dont criticize some other OS because you want to cling onto your own stuff and fanboy about it. They are different get the forget over it.

They are not just an OS manufacturer, they are also a hardware manufacturer. Meaning they also have that side to struggle with, and they are going to do whatever makes money while keeping customers.

sigging this for whenever I need it

[ZSNO]

This thread is hilarious.

EDIT: What exactly are you referring to with

they use exclusive instruction sets

[ZombiLoin]

Sad, but Snow Leopard is 6 years old and many of the new games on Mac don't even support 10.6 anyways. With Mac updates being free it's easy to just dual boot a newer version of Mac for Steam.

[Skip]

Oh boy, people stuck using Macs getting mad that Macs are stuffty.

[Mule]

What exactly are you referring to with

When you compile something, it needs to be able to run in assembly language. Instruction sets are "words" that the processor is able to understand and break down to 1's and 0's. For example, x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4a < Is Amd's instruction sets; while x86-64, Intel 64 SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4, SSE4.1, SSE4.2AVX, AVX2, AVX3 (Xeon models only[2][3]), TXT, TSX, SGX[4] VT-x, VT-d < are all Intels instruction sets. Many of them are exclusive, many are required by the OSX kernel to execute on a basic level. This is one of the reasons you need a customized kernel to run OS X on unauthorized hardware. It ins't because Apple "Is out to get people", it is because they want to make their OS as fast and light as possible.

[Space1255]

Oh boy, people stuck using Macs getting mad that Macs are stuffty.

I'm stuck with a Mac still and I'm not mad.
I'm still gonna keep my Mac even if I build a NASA Supercomputer because it has sentimental value.

[ZSNO]

When you compile something, it needs to be able to run in assembly language. Instruction sets are "words" that the processor is able to understand and break down to 1's and 0's. For example, x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4a < Is Amd's instruction sets; while x86-64, Intel 64 SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4, SSE4.1, SSE4.2AVX, AVX2, AVX3 (Xeon models only[2][3]), TXT, TSX, SGX[4] VT-x, VT-d < are all Intels instruction sets. Many of them are exclusive, many are required by the OSX kernel to execute on a basic level. This is one of the reasons you need a customized kernel to run OS X on unauthorized hardware. It ins't because Apple "Is out to get people", it is because they want to make their OS as fast and light as possible.

I'm not sure where you're getting the "exclusive" part of it. I can't find anything that says any of those extensions are exclusive to OSX compared to any kernel that wants to use them.

[Mule]

I'm not sure where you're getting the "exclusive" part of it. I can't find anything that says any of those extensions are exclusive to OSX compared to any kernel that wants to use them.

The problem for AMD is that any patched kernel since Lion is strictly i386. To have access to 64 bit apps in an AMD Lion install, it's necessary a Buldozer CPU, since it has support for a key instruction set in OSX Lion, the ssse3 (please, don't confuse it with sse3). All other AMD processors should run strict 32-bit, forbidding crucial apps like the newer xcodes. A solution for this would be a sss3 emulator. Anyone willing or able to write?

Some did write the emulater suck it