How does any of this change the fact that you have blatant disposition against her because of your outsider view of their 'unhappy' relationship?
my disposition for her isn't as deep rooted into my view of their unhappy relationship as you think it is. sure it's a contributing factor, however its a small one. i'm not trying to dispute that it's a contributing factor, my point is it's less of an affect on how i feel about her than you think. it really does not take a genius to realize when there are multiple affairs occuring that they are unhappy together.
You literally said "im not sure what he sees in her", you're saying she's not an adequate partner for him, and by loving the guy while he's still in a relationship with her you're subconsciously saying you're a better substitute. If you didn't, you wouldn't be arguing, you'd just admit that you did a stuffty thing in complete disregard of their relationship instead of trying to come up with a million excuses.
the only reason i'm arguing is because you are assuming so much on what happened going off a relatively vague list of events and a couple other posts that dont detail much, it really is just you filling in the missing pieces with whatever picture you want to paint of me trying to ruin everything for everyone. i've already admitted that what i did was terribly wrong. you cut out where i said im not trying to excuse what i did
You don't have to get on a soapbox and scream "THIS IS WHAT I THINK" to send a message about what you're thinking. Actions speak louder than words and your words don't really mean all that much after you forget somebody in a relationship in my opinion.
so it's alright for you to draw a conclusion on whatever you feels fitting because you think my words dont mean anything?
Did you figure this out during your "personal talk" with him? Because "other people have told me" sounds a lot like rumors and general bullstufftery. So far it seems that the only legitimate evidence we have that he is actually unfaithful is because you forgeted him. Anybody who wants to be in a relationship with someone they are not in a relationship with will make up a thousand reasons why their current relationship sucks.
i really don't want to have to keep putting more detail into this. mostly because it IS personal and my posts were vague on the subject because i wanted to be able to post and have it really just be the basic scenario and then people would discuss off that. looking back it was a dumb idea because the situation is more complex than i made it out to be. i didn't really plan for you to come in and connect the dots all backwards and claim things like that i'm making up reasons that their relationship is stuffty. it's kind of silly to expect me to give more info on the situation than i want to because you wont believe he's been unfaithful before. i would have to explain relations between my family and the people involved to explain where i heard about him cheating on her, and i'm not going to because that's too much. if you don't want to believe he's been unfaithful in the past then so be it
Doesn't matter who initiated it, you're both completely aware that he was in a relationship with somebody else and you both disregarded that fact out of a pure lack of self control and respect.
yes, and you're right. you are completely right. but you were claiming i was manipulating him. i wasn't, and telling me i had a lack of self control and respect doesn't really relate to your claim i was manipulative.
also what even is this:
working around the clock to destroy them
again with you thinking i had some hidden motive of destroying the relationship? as you say later it WAS a childish and idiotic mistake. you KNOW this was a mistake on my part and yet you are still saying that my intentions were on ruining their relationship
My opinion is coming from the perspective of someone who got cucked by someone like you.
that explains a lot behind why you are so damn heated on this and assuming what isn't explained in plain text in front of you. scenarios like this one are unique and off of your own experience you cant really assume it all played out the same, or that the people in my issue are similarly acting to yours
And here's what's really got me; why are you pretending like you give a stuff about the girlfriend? You literally just admitted that "she wasn't someone of importance to me"
dude, she's a high school girl. yeah, she's a bitch to me but it doesn't mean i wanna devastate her. being an annoying starfish during the school year doesn't mean i'm gonna wish anything bad upon you for it, it just means you're an starfish
you're misinterpreting what i mean by "not of importance to me." i meant it like shes no different to me than an acquaintance. she's not someone whos around me on the daily, so it's pretty easy to let someone who doesn't interact with you for a long time and also has had a very small impact on your life fade to the back of your memory
Personally I think you should just walk away from these two people and let them solve their own problems instead of trying to take it into your own hands after you've taken a nice steamy stuff on top of the pile. I think you should go up to the dude you forgeted and tell him that what you did together was an idiotically childish mistake, and tell him to come clean to his girlfriend himself, so she can hear it from her significant other, and not somebody who's she's been on faulty ground with for 6 years. Because that stuff is heartbreaking as forget. Cut contact after that permanently.
you're right and it's really what i plan on doing.
this topic was a mistake, i didnt really expect it to be very argumentative and if its just going to be me and rally arguing i'd rather have it continued in a PM. i don't want to continue this in a thread
