Why I love NASCAR

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you could have much more fun watching an scca race, my dad raced scca in 1989, he bought an Ef civic SI straight from the factory and threw a rollcage and better suspension on it, (probs a turbo too)

looked a lot like this


you get to turn right!

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[MoltenKitten]

you could have much more fun watching an scca race, my dad raced scca in 1989, he bought an Ef civic SI straight from the factory and threw a rollcage and better suspension on it, (probs a turbo too)

looked a lot like this


you get to turn right!

Ewww

Throw a number and a rollcage and suddenly it is a racecar? How fast does it go? What is the field?

[Malleo100]

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[ABlockOfCheese]

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so did you just come here to shot post or are you going to add something to the topic?

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Ewww

Throw a number and a rollcage and suddenly it is a racecar? How fast does it go? What is the field?

it might be slower than nascar, but it takes more skill, you need to know how to revmatch, how to engine brake, how to apex turns, when to apply power, how to pass properly and its generally harder to do than having your foot constantly on the floor except for turns and having a four speed gearbox that is in 4th at nearly all times

edit: Also yes "throwing" in a roll cage does make it a racecar, you also have to gut all of the interior components, reroute the fuel system and put in a five point harness and engine killswitch, this isn't an autocross

[ABlockOfCheese]

it might be slower than nascar, but it takes more skill, you need to know how to revmatch, how to engine brake, how to apex turns, when to apply power, how to pass properly and its generally harder to do than having your foot constantly on the floor except for turns and having a four speed gearbox that is in 4th at nearly all times

Have you ever heard of Watkins Glen or Infineon?

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Have you ever heard of Watkins Glen or Infineon?

yes, but the majority of nascar tracks are ovals or tri ovals

[ABlockOfCheese]

yes, but the majority of nascar tracks are ovals or tri ovals

true but those two tracks require all the same skills as the racing your dad did in the civic.  Saying that driving a slow civic around a road course takes more skill than driving a Nascar is a bit ludicrous and dismissive of the entire sport.

[MoltenKitten]

it might be slower than nascar, but it takes more skill, you need to know how to revmatch, how to engine brake, how to apex turns, when to apply power, how to pass properly and its generally harder to do than having your foot constantly on the floor except for turns and having a four speed gearbox that is in 4th at nearly all times

My turn

Being as NASCAR is at higher speed means there is less room for error so if you turn late you may be able to miss the wall by braking but good luck not losing position. I don't know what "revmatch" or "engine braking" is so I am ignoring those. You need to be able to apex turns in NASCAR too, they aren't as obvious but they exist. Only 2 tracks on the entire NASCAR schedule can you stay foot to the floor and not crash. NASCAR also uses a 4 speed gearbox (surprise me too) that is almost always in 4th or 3rd.

As an added bonus I am adding in that there is no speedometer in those cars so you have to feel the car so you don't go to fast.

[Utsuho Reiuji]

I don't know what "revmatch" or "engine braking" is so I am ignoring those.

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at least try to use goodle

[MoltenKitten]

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at least try to use goodle

I can't, google crashes my phone.

[shitlord]

whats your phone

[MoltenKitten]

whats your phone

I don't know why I said phone when it is a 4th gen ipod

[warble]

do you even manual transmission

rev match
 shifting at the point where the transmission would've set the gear, you shift without use of the clutch, as an example, in my camry if you're rolling in neutral at 40mph exactly, and you rev the engine to somewhere between 1900 and 2000 rpm the shifter will just slide into 4th gear naturally because that's where the trans would've set the rpm at 40 mph anyway

engine brake: shifting into a lower gear at a speed where the transmission would set it at high revs, (between 3000 and redline) the physical force of the engine not wanting to go up in revs that quickly causes your car lose speed, its basically inertia applied for braking, you use this in racing to preserve your brake pads, if you went pure brake pads in a race, you'd surely have a brake fire (which actually happened to my dad once)

[ABlockOfCheese]

do you even manual transmission

rev match
 shifting at the point where the transmission would've set the gear, you shift without use of the clutch, as an example, in my camry if you're rolling in neutral at 40mph exactly, and you rev the engine to somewhere between 1900 and 2000 rpm the shifter will just slide into 4th gear naturally because that's where the trans would've set the rpm at 40 mph anyway

engine brake: shifting into a lower gear at a speed where the transmission would set it at high revs, (between 3000 and redline) the physical force of the engine not wanting to go up in revs that quickly causes your car lose speed, its basically inertia applied for braking, you use this in racing to preserve your brake pads, if you went pure brake pads in a race, you'd surely have a brake fire (which actually happened to my dad once)

nascar uses both of those skills