Has the U.S.A turned on its police officers?(Debate)

[Ipquarx]

united states citizens are killed way more by cops than in any other country. cops are trained to kill and escalate the situation, not protect and diffuse the situation. a lot of them are cowards too. they shoot anything that moves at them.

[violently demands citation]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

This article is literally cherrypicking hell
Instead of actually giving the full dataset, they give you tiny little compare-and-contrast snippets of it which could just as easily be cherrypicked as they could have been fairly selected.

It also doesn't show any of the numbers that really matter, which is per-capita shootings adjusted to crime rates. not raw frickin data. this is why the wage gap myth lived on, comparing raw data is absolutely nonsensically useless.

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[Deus Ex]

black people born in america who come from jamaican ancestry have african heritage?

Jamaicans are from Africa. They were brought onto the island during the slave trade dude what the hell

where the forget do you think jamaicans came from lmao

[blockguy™]

i kind of think it's the black people's fault because their stereotypical "hey what's good brother wanna smoke weed and rob a gas station" has kind of enforced itself over the entire population of the USA. obviously not all black people are like that just like not all gay people are loving interior designers and go "hayy bittchh!".

but msot of the time it's just officers being stuff turds like they usually are. although, it could be the black people! whoa, a black person committing a serious offense, such as the darren wilson stuff and getting punished for it? how loving unheard of! let's loving start a riot against the cops!

thats just my opinion on it

[SuperFlaminninja³]

Where the forget did Jamaican decent come into the story?

I love how you are entirely disregarding most of what i just said, i said Many, I never ever said all aren't trigger happy fools who would shoot some one and never think twice without the law, If what you claim is true and all cops are simply fools then why haven't they revealed their grand scheme and opened fire on us all?

[Epicduke]

Jamaicans are from Africa. They were brought onto the island during the slave trade dude what the hell

there are other native blacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito
like them

[IkeTheGeneric]

I do believe there's way too much police violence, both perpetrated by officers and citizens alike. I also think marking it up to be a racial issue is incredibly shallow. There's more to the problem than it just being because white cops hate black people.

Unfortunately too many people come to the latter conclusion.

[Daswiruch]

Jamaicans are from Africa. They were brought onto the island during the slave trade dude what the hell

holy hell
hypothetical situation: having one or two ancestors ~300 years ago come to the island during the slave trade and create children for generations does not make them african

my original loving point that i was trying to make is that not all dark-skinned people are african

[Bear_Tracks]

fun fact: 'african-american' people born in america are in fact not african-american
african-american implies that they were born in africa, immigrated to the us, and gained citizenship

Daswiruch is absolutely correct. The majority of African Americans have at least 10% European blood, many have much more genetically and many are also mixed in with Native American blood. African Americans are not all simply African, in fact the majority aren't just African.

[Alternat¡ve]

He only speaks about it instead of actually doing some thing, when has he ever showed actionI love how you are entirely disregarding most of what i just said, i said Many, I never ever said all aren't trigger happy fools who would shoot some one and never think twice without the law, If what you claim is true and all cops are simply fools then why haven't they revealed their grand scheme and opened fire on us all?

you see thats a fallacy. i never said all cops are fools or have some grand scheme, in fact i have no idea where you heard anyone say that cops have a grand scheme to open fire on us all.

[IkeTheGeneric]

my original loving point that i was trying to make is that not all dark-skinned people are african

But dark-skinned people who are jamacian are indeed african

you see thats a fallacy. i never said all cops are fools or have some grand scheme, in fact i have no idea where you heard anyone say that cops have a grand scheme to open fire on us all.

He was exaggerating your "cops are trained to kill and escalate the situation, not protect and diffuse the situation." claim

[SuperFlaminninja³]

I do believe there's way too much police violence, both perpetrated by officers and citizens alike. I also think marking it up to be a racial issue is incredibly shallow. There's more to the problem than it just being because white cops hate black people.

Unfortunately too many people come to the latter conclusion.

I agree with you, exactly the point i was trying to get across, If a white kid was reaching for a gun that looked real and police officers had no idea it could be a toy, i can almost guarantee it would have the same out come

[SeventhSandwich]

Some thing else i would like to draw to your attention is the shooting of Tamir Rice which was one of the first so called "racial profiling" if any one actually read into cases' like this, they would find that the "airsoft gun" had no orange tip on the end to show that it was a toy, and how on earth were the police officers supposed to notice in those few seconds that it was a toy.

The Tamir Rice case is nothing like the other publicized incidents of police officers shooting unarmed black people. You cherry-picked literally the worst case to represent this issue as a whole.

i kind of think it's the black people's fault because their stereotypical "hey what's good brother wanna smoke weed and rob a gas station" has kind of enforced itself over the entire population of the USA. obviously not all black people are like that just like not all gay people are loving interior designers and go "hayy bittchh!".

So in other words, you're blaming all black people for crime committed by some black people?

[Daswiruch]

But dark-skinned people who are jamacian are indeed african

that is very wrong because not everybody with dark skin is of african descent

So in other words, you're blaming all black people for crime committed by some black people?

i'm not trying to reinforce his racism but stereotypes don't just come out of thin air

[Deus Ex]

there are other native blacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito
like them

My World Geography teacher would be so upset that I forgot that.

my original loving point that i was trying to make is that not all dark-skinned people are african

well no stuff lmao

[SuperFlaminninja³]

The Tamir Rice case is nothing like the other publicized incidents of police officers shooting unarmed black people. You cherry-picked literally the worst case to represent this issue as a whole.

AND loving AGAIN YOU CHERRY-PICK MY TOPIC
This is not a speaking of unarmed people