Bear_Tracks trolling Sugar

[IkeTheGeneric]

because every other autistic user isnt defended

If it were the case where Bear_Tracks were trolling any other person in game who was legitimately confirmed to have autism I guarantee you it would net the same reaction. Believe it or not, this isn't exactly acceptable behavior under any case and the only reason Sugar is brought up so much is because it's the streisand effect in full force. The more people talk about Sugar, the more human scum like Caribou seek her out to mess with her.

The problem with calling other people out for defending Sugar often is that you're putting pressure on people for that sole reason alone. You're assuming the case that Sugar is special somehow and that if literally any other autistic kid was being trolled nobody would care. Hence the "white knight" bullstuff.

You wanna honestly tell me that everyone sticking up for sugar would be fine with any other autistic kid being trolled?

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[Nymph]

i have no idea who sugar is can somebody explain? what i'm gathering is that she is... a girl who can't form sentences in english correctly????

Basically some autistic female blocklander that has a mass white knight following consisting of moral elitists that crucify anyone who dares try and communicate with her.

If it were the case where Bear_Tracks were trolling any other person in game who was legitimately confirmed to have autism I guarantee you it would net the same reaction. Believe it or not, this isn't exactly acceptable behavior under any case and the only reason Sugar is brought up so much is because it's the streisand effect in full force. The more people talk about Sugar, the more human scum like Caribou seek her out to mess with her.

The problem with calling other people out for defending Sugar often is that you're putting pressure on people for that sole reason alone. You're assuming the case that Sugar is special somehow and that if literally any other autistic kid was being trolled nobody would care. Hence the "white knight" bullstuff.

You wanna honestly tell me that everyone sticking up for sugar would be fine with any other autistic kid being trolled?

Yes, they would. Why do you think so many forumers with confirmed autism sperg out? They already have trouble communicating with other people but you forgets ridicule them and push them overboard. If I was home and not on my phone I could easily link to a few examples, but to name a prime example, look at doaler.

[IkeTheGeneric]

but to name a prime example, look at doaler.

Doaler was doing just fine from the start, though. Nobody pushed him overboard, he was caught in a lie and had a random-ass meltdown for unknown reasons.

He even tried to distribute cheating tools, I wouldn't exactly say he's in the same position sugar is in.

[Trogtor]

because every other autistic user isnt defended

because every other autistic user isn't nearly as vulnerable as sugar is and they are capable of defending theirself.

[kongo]

but to name a prime example, look at doaler.

sugar didn't try to distribute blhack

people won't defend doaler if he's causing a ton of problems, sugar doesn't do that
also iirc chewer has some sort of problem too (don't quote me on this i've only heard about it) and he was defended when people drama'd his server

[Drydess]

Well yeah, trying to be the moral voice of the topic while also being an idiot isn't exactly a successful endeavor. You stuffheads are quick to call white knight when something has overwhelming support because that's what you do, be angry contrarians over loving everything

Uh, no. If you're suggesting that Sugar doesn't have white knights, you're wrong.
It's more of the fact that people defend autistic people and only certain ones at that. They say they do it because they need the defense, however there are actually little kids being harassed. They're just as "defenseless" as any autistic person, what with not being very smart and all as a result of their age.
Sorry if I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but that's how I read it.

[Nymph]

Doaler was doing just fine from the start, though. Nobody pushed him overboard, he was caught in a lie and had a random-ass meltdown for unknown reasons.

He even tried to distribute cheating tools, I wouldn't exactly say he's in the same position sugar is in.

So are you saying that if sugar broke down, you would stop supporting her completely and throw the same insults that were thrown at doaler her direction?

[IkeTheGeneric]

So are you saying that if sugar broke down, you would stop supporting her completely and throw the same insults that were thrown at doaler her direction?

I'm saying that doaler in full control when he decided to randomly Self Delete spam and distribute cheating tools. If you think people pushed him into doing that then you need to read his post history. forget off with your loaded questions

[Mr. Bones]

So are you saying that if sugar broke down, you would stop supporting her completely and throw the same insults that were thrown at doaler her direction?

Sugar wouldn't do that though, you can't just say "Well, what if...?" because it's subjective as to what would happen.

Doaler wasn't even autistic either, he said he got autism from mcdonalds and vaccine shots.  He's just an annoyance.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Uh, no. If you're suggesting that Sugar doesn't have white knights, you're wrong.

You need to read up on internet terminology if you think people are white-knighting sugar

[Drydess]

You need to read up on internet terminology if you think people are white-knighting sugar

Yes, I know what it means. I can't say stuff negatively, even just "Eh, I don't like sugar very much," ABOUT Sugar without being despised throughout the community, just because she has autism.
Sure, I get that certain people target her because she has autism, but the point still stands that people can't even make a comic about sugar without being fed stuff repeatedly.

[Nymph]

I'm saying that doaler in full control when he decided to randomly Self Delete spam and distribute cheating tools. If you think people pushed him into doing that then you need to read his post history. forget off with your loaded questions

If you are just going to avoid the question then there is no point in arguing with you.

Sugar wouldn't do that though, you can't just say "Well, what if...?" because it's subjective as to what would happen.

Doaler wasn't even autistic either, he said he got autism from mcdonalds and vaccine shots.  He's just an annoyance.

You also can't say she wouldn't do something, no matter how well you know her. Also, it was confirmed that he had autism.

[kanew2000]

You need to read up on internet terminology if you think people are white-knighting sugar

yeah dude, do you even Surf the Web? What a Cyber-Nooblet

[IkeTheGeneric]

If you are just going to avoid the question then there is no point in arguing with you.

You're putting me in a position where I'm going to look bad no matter how I answer, this is what I meant with the whole "loaded question nonsense"

I'm not going to insult sugar like I didn't want to insult doaler. I told doaler that he hasn't changed and instead of trying to convince people he changed, actually start trying to integrate with the forums and move on. I was hoping he would follow my advice and not try to start anything with anyone so he would actually have a chance at foruming.

It was disappointing more than anything when he went back to his old ways and saying anyone but him is to blame is really sending the wrong message.

Yes, I know what it means. I can't say stuff negatively, even just "Eh, I don't like sugar very much," ABOUT Sugar without being despised throughout the community, just because she has autism.

I've said countless times before that sugar can get annoying when she demands the host do things. I know and understand that autism makes it hard for people to understand social cues and that it's not her fault. I'm mostly in the same boat with you.

[Trogtor]

If you are just going to avoid the question then there is no point in arguing with you.

your question was absolutely stupid. an answer wasnt needed.