Author Topic: Has the Pope Committed Acts of Heresy?  (Read 4079 times)

Please allow this to be a serious discussion.

       I was raised as a Catholic by one Catholic convert and a Catholic born. In the past the Pope has governed and interpreted the Bible for many Catholics and helped shape our view as a denomination.

       I will not personally give my opinion on the changes he has made, but you might have inferred some of my feelings about it due to the explicitness of the topic title. I worry that many of our chief tenets that one hundred years ago would be considered too sacrosanct to ever be interpreted as they are now. I feel many of the changes by the Pope have digressed away from traditionalist values and it seems that these changes are coming more frequently. Some of his stances include: Homoloveuality, Homoloveuality and marriage, the Zika virus, and, while I am not a Annoying Orange supporter, advocate nor plan on voting for him in November's election, the Pope's disparaging remarks about Annoying Orange's proposal over building a vast wall along the border. Now let this be a disclaimer that I think his proposal is ridiculous, the Pope, as the head of the Vatican, is in absolutely no position to accuse someone of not being a Christian, when the Catholic church, and other Christian denominations have for a thousand years erected defenses and walls to segregate non-believers, and hostile measures taken against peoples of many foreign nations in the name of God, much greater than any wall.

       I would like your opinion on the matter. I hope to hear from any person, rather them be an athiest, theist or deist, Muslim, Jew, or of any Christian denomination about your feelings.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 08:31:44 PM by Neventii »

I'm pretty sure that the pope determines what is or is not heresy

Wasn't papal infallibility defined by Vatican I in 1870?

Wasn't papal infallibility defined by Vatican I in 1870?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

It seems you are correct. However, I worry that in the time of Pope Pius XI the changes occurring at the time were not as radical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

It seems you are correct. However, I worry that in the time of Pope Pius XI the changes occurring at the time were not as radical.
And wouldn't closing off our country to the poor be directly against the preferential option to the poor.

Pope's disparaging remarks about Annoying Orange's proposal over building a vast wall along the border.

Well yeah, the wall idea is loving handicapped. It's a waste of money, manpower and time. It would be functionally useless, and fundamentally flawed.

depends on how recently catholicism has built a wall

stances have changed over the years

And wouldn't closing off our country to the poor be directly against the preferential option to the poor.
It is not necessarily closed off to them. They would have to immigrate here in the same way all foreign nationals do. I will recognize that this process is probably more biased when speaking about Mexican or Latin American immigration.

traditionalist values
and here lies the problem with religion: unwillingness to change.

A more liberal pope is more than welcome in my books.

Commandments aside, religious doctrine is not enshrined in stone. If it were, a pope wouldn't be necessary at all.

and here lies the problem with religion: unwillingness to change.
There are some strict passages about non-conformism and not changing to the society one lives. Now, many ignore these passages but they do exist. Personally, I do not follow Romans or Leviticus because it is filled with so much hatred.



If the pope of all people has committed Heresy, the majority of americans have committed heresy for simply approving of gay marriage.

Oh no, now you'll have to stone 150 million people!!!!!

hbu op

How about me? On which issue?

If the pope of all people has committed Heresy, the majority of americans have committed heresy for simply approving of gay marriage.

Oh no, now you'll have to stone 150 million people!!!!!
You almost lead me right into a quote.