Author Topic: Does more affordable college = more degrees = less value?  (Read 7804 times)

correct but what you're saying is that because you want more affordable education = laziness?
No I'm saying the price of the college is what it is and who are we to dictate what the price is?

If something is so expensive and will cost more to learn about than you'll make, why do people want to pursue it? Sounds like poor planning to me.

No I'm saying the price of the college is what it is and who are we to dictate what the price is?
I'm sorry but what kind of logic is this

No I'm saying the price of the college is what it is and who are we to dictate what the price is?

If something is so expensive and will cost more to learn about than you'll make, why do people want to pursue it? Sounds like poor planning to me.
you have a point there like if you're going into gender studies but for me, college is necessary and its difficult to afford even if I work my ass off

In Argentina, public universities are totally free. You do a year of CBS (Ciclo Basico Superior), which means Superior Basic Cycle, which are just the base subjects, and from there, you pick your branch and start.

Of course, you have private universities which are paid in which you don't need to do the CBS and you pick the branch right away but the rest is pretty much equal. Maybe you get better classes because not many people go to public universities here so there's less students per teacher and be it private, the university can buy stuff to do more practical classes than theoretical unlike in the public where you have few practical classes due to budgets.

 You can drop out anytime and come back in anytime. The onlything that matters in our universities are your exams. You have theoretical and practical exams. The scoring rank is from 0-10. You pass with a 7 and it is VERY hard to get even a 4 in our faculties because you're taught and taught and taught, you need to get on your ass and study to get close to a 7. You do have make-up tests.

If you fail, you have to retake the course the following year to stay on track and avoid "equivalents" which are basically tests that test you on everything learnt in the past courses. You'd need to take one of those to get back into the same course level.


Your degree is very valuable because it's hard to get one in the public universities but they're totally free and you have lots of free tools at your disposal in case you need any help. You can also do residence in an official building of your branch to help out and learn better. Ex: you're studying medicine. You can do residence in a hospital and get to be around the docs while they do their real work and you learn. Our best branches are medicine. Be it human or animal.

You leave the univercity with a bachelor's degree and from there, you can master it to get a profesor's degree and you can master that to get a doctorate's. (Note that I am doing brute translation here and the actual names may vary)
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I'm sorry but what kind of logic is this
It's education that isn't required. They can charge whatever they want and unless you pay up, they don't give a forget.

I'm sorry but what kind of logic is this
We used to have this until students in Cordoba were fed up and began a riot. Then the univercities began having their own governments and became their own political entity in exchange of being totally free and self-managed.

It's education that isn't required. They can charge whatever they want and unless you pay up, they don't give a forget.
except we tax payers pay for that school? Kind of like how we pay for you at the post office

If something is so expensive and will cost more to learn about than you'll make, why do people want to pursue it? Sounds like poor planning to me.
Well, this is why you don't choose stuff degrees, with the aim to get a mediocre job with awful pay.

I actually got into a half an hour long argument about this yesterday kind of
Personally I feel like affordable college will lead to more people having degrees so more educated people in general I suppose, not really degrading the value, just degrading the value of people who never went to college at all
I don't qualify for a grant nor does my family or I have anywhere near enough money to pay for it, so if I wanna go I get to be like 20k+ in debt right out the loving gate into adulthood

At this moment I have no idea whether or not I'm even going to college

College degrees aren't like currency. In fact I think when a college/university has a higher variety in degrees it means it's a good school.  And if there's a high achievement rate that could also mean it's a good school.

I actually got into a half an hour long argument about this yesterday kind of
Personally I feel like affordable college will lead to more people having degrees so more educated people in general I suppose, not really degrading the value, just degrading the value of people who never went to college at all
I don't qualify for a grant nor does my family or I have anywhere near enough money to pay for it, so if I wanna go I get to be like 20k+ in debt right out the loving gate into adulthood

At this moment I have no idea whether or not I'm even going to college
what is your main opposition to being on the fence about college? What stops you from saying Yes I'm going to college?

what is your main opposition to being on the fence about college? What stops you from saying Yes I'm going to college?
I think he was implying that it was the student loans that are putting him off.

I think he was implying that it was the student loans that are putting him off.
yeah but I just wanted a super straight forward clear answer

Is money making you hesitant? If college wasn't expensive, would you definitely go to college?

yeah but I just wanted a super straight forward clear answer
I'm terrified of debt, especially starting out with 20 thousand dollars of it
Is money making you hesitant? If college wasn't expensive, would you definitely go to college?
heck yea

personally i think that community colleges and trade school should be free (hurr durr no such thing as free stoopid LIEberal), public universities be reduced in cost, and private college can charge whatever the forget they want