Author Topic: Does more affordable college = more degrees = less value?  (Read 7641 times)

I'm sad that I didn't see this earlier but I'm at work in college.

I actually agree with this girl. Unless you're disabled you can get into the military. And if you really don't want to serve than you just need to do better in school so the college pays for you.

As somebody who's going to have to pay for every penny I still don't think that I ought to get cheaper or free college, and neither should anybody else. The more dollars exist the less they're worth. The more degrees we give out the less they're worth.

EDIT: it's less black and white than I made it sound like I believe it is. Where you got the degree from matters a lot so let me just do a 180 on that last pargraph.
I cannot get into the military. I will be PDQ'd at MEPS. They will disqualify you for many reasons than being disabled. I did well in school, received multiple scholarships, worked 2 jobs, was a 3 sport varsity athlete, a member of the NHS and even received a grant from UMass but it's still over $20,000 a year.

And its not more money, its a shift of money. Why can't we take from the $500 + billion dollar defense spending budget and put some toward education? Public high school and elementary school education really needs work in poorer neighborhoods.

And like we said, degrees aren't worth less and if you believe that you dont support a smarter nation.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2016, 06:37:16 PM by SlayerZ99 »

I quit walmart. I have too much self respect to allow myself to keep working there.
Nah, you totally got fired for spazzing out over Pitch Perfect 2.

As somebody who's going to have to pay for every penny I still don't think that I ought to get cheaper or free college, and neither should anybody else. The more dollars exist the less they're worth. The more degrees we give out the less they're worth.
two huge misunderstandings here:
the US does not pay for things by printing more money
even if college was free it would not be "giving out" degrees

Nah, you totally got fired for spazzing out over Pitch Perfect 2.

No I quit because a grown ass woman in her mid fifties was spazzing out over Pitch Perfect 2 and I couldn't loving stand it.

two huge misunderstandings here:
the US does not pay for things by printing more money
even if college was free it would not be "giving out" degrees
also the fact that college degrees aren't valuable because they have inherent worth, it's because it's a representation of the fact that you as an individual have a certain set of qualifications.

people being able to become educated is nothing but a good thing. education helps to expand the economy, i'd say that it's a worthwhile investment

Going to an ITT school is all you need for a Videogame developing job. You don't need a fancy degree for it.

competition-wise, sure

Tuition free colleges would make trying to get in to them more competitive, bringing together the brightest without having to worry about tuition buttloving those who aren't graced with wealth.

Also, trades are in forgethuge demand, though that's off topic.

Mike Rowe has a great TED talk on the importance of trade skills and trade labor.

two huge misunderstandings here:
the US does not pay for things by printing more money
even if college was free it would not be "giving out" degrees
What you have to understand is that at the time of my writing that I was just vomiting out raw opinion. I hadn't given my arguments any thought.

Basically if I put my brain to it my opinion would come out closer to yours

Although I won't give every argument she fired back with one of her arguments was that, if more people are going to college and if more people were getting degrees it would decrease the value of those degrees.
That's literally just true. Human resources are a scarce commodity like anything else. When supply shifts to the right, price goes down, meaning you get less wages.

People who support affordable college aren't trying to argue that they're gonna get everyone high-paying, white-collar jobs. The whole point is to create a country that isn't failing miserably in education compared to almost all other major developed nations.

That's literally just true. Human resources are a scarce commodity like anything else. When supply shifts to the right, price goes down, meaning you get less wages.

People who support affordable college aren't trying to argue that they're gonna get everyone high-paying, white-collar jobs. The whole point is to create a country that isn't failing miserably in education compared to almost all other major developed nations.
On top of the fact that there probably won't be significantly more degrees in the first place, they can only handle so much capacity and they're not going to go over that. Wages likely won't go down.

Who's paying for your free education?

Also girls are dumb, stop arguing politics with broads.

On a more serious note though, are you on meds? What's your condition? I got disqualified for having suicidal tendencies at sixteen.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 01:13:02 AM by Neventii »

Who's paying for your free education?

Also girls are dumb, stop arguing politics with broads.

On a more serious note though, are you on meds? What's your condition? I got disqualified for having suicidal tendencies at sixteen.
well one it wouldn't be free and my first thought would be a better progressive tax and to cut defense spending. Also that's super loveist

I'm not on meds I have eczema

eczema
whats that i decided i didnt care to wait for your reply

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whats that
basically it's a permanent rash all over your body, but not really bad unless untreated
I have it, really annoying
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