[DATA] Opinions Thread -- legal marijuana, abortion, and universal healthcare

[Swat 3]

Common core creates a school environment to test, not to learn. Instead of opening the door to clear thinking and solidification/actually applying education, Common Core creates a standard that every student must be the same. Schools are supposed to prepare for life and secondary education, not to prepare to test. There needs to be a stronger end-game other than the PARCC test/w/e your state uses. The way to fix Common Core is to actually ask EDUCATORS, not politicians or test companies like Pearson, what is best for a standard.

Also, Common Core isn't working at keeping us on-par with the rest of the word. Common Core limits personal freedoms and responsibility. Rather than broad standardization, do specific standardization. Standardize earlier education especially. The reason kids in Switzerland are know more advanced stuff is because they are being taught more advanced stuff. You can teach advanced stuff (like Calculus) early on, but it depends on the teacher if they can properly teach it. Also, our teachers here are mostly stuff.

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[Torin]

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[SetGaming]

Common Core is absolutely useless. Not because of the "extra work" but because of the topic the extra work covers. It's not "extra work so kids can learn faster", but instead, it's complete busywork; kids aren't taught the most efficient method to solve math problems initially, but instead they have to work through granual and practically meaningless work.

Don't get me wrong, though - there are upsides to this method of teaching, though usually it ends up where the kid is much more confused than informed on said topic.

However, the downside that I am most concerned with is the lack of "meaning" to Common Core. No, I'm not saying that school is useless, but jobs are starting to become much more specialized, and vaguely teaching "math science english history" certainly does not help any child in trying to acheieve later in life. I've known since I was eight years old that I wanted to become a computer programmer - Common Core practically negates anything outside the realm of these subjects. Most kids who want to specialize, or have interests in said jobs usually have to learn on their own or through their parents.

Finally, I would like to note how demeaning Common Core is on more privately owned schools, such as charter or "gifted" schools. The issue with Common Core in these types of schools is that many teaching methods for "gifted" children require much more homework, and Common Core just adds more to that (unless the school eliminates the rest of the homework in the school in order to impliment Common Core). The "testing season" is also a massive waste of time, as most grades have to test for 2-4 weeks testing, whereas, and especially in gifted schools, kids are usually much ahead of the content and see no use.

On the note of personal experience, I go to a "gifted school" and almost everyone is opting out of the state testing due to the real uselessness of it. The testing applications are miserable, and the tests don't protean to anything that kids learn in school. Common Core is an overrall waste of time, money and energy; nobody has any use for Common Core at this point, unless they want schools to "recognize them" (in which the schools likely won't).


tl;dr: common core pisses me off

[Remurr]

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[Cappytaino]

Common core - meh

Women in combat roles - yes

Censorship - no. Only exception is information that could lead to people being hurt, such as classified military information.

[Mr. Hurricane]

Common core: Not bad in the ends in pursues but employs horrific means to that end. I am against common core but for something better that would make the same level of education universal throughout the states, at the very least in regards to math, science/technology, and English.

Also standardized testing is nightmarish. We really should take pages out of Europe's/Scandanavia's book for this.

All in all I am against common core as it stands today.

Media Censorship: Against. Government censorship is harmful, I don't care if your MORALS are infringed either, freedom of information and freedom of expression must prevail for this society and its democracy to function.

Women in the Military For, except I support gender segregated ground units, IIRC mixed gendered units are not as effective as single gender.

Training must not change to accommodate women, even if training is to men's standards, we shouldn't dilute our force quality, at least not for ground troops.

[Path]

Government censorship is dumb, but censorship of content such as gore and death from children is a must.

[Cappytaino]

Government censorship is dumb, but censorship of content such as gore and death from children is a must.

it isn't the government's responsibility to parent children. That falls on the parents.

[Foxscotch]

Government censorship is dumb, but censorship of content such as gore and death from children is a must.

I don't think the government should do that, but I have no problem whatsoever with tv networks controlling content like that

[Cappytaino]

I don't think the government should do that, but I have no problem whatsoever with tv networks controlling content like that

agreed, however there should be penalties for deliberate falsification of information, perhaps a publicly available record kept of such violations.

[Foxscotch]

agreed, however there should be penalties for deliberate falsification of information, perhaps a publicly available record kept of such violations.

like what, exactly?

[WaffleCake]

on the subject of common core, around two years back we were informed that the state of maryland was gonna move to the PARCC standardized test. it was a really stuffty switch because lemme tell ya that parcc SUCKS
this kind of standardized testing features two part questions and it's really lame because if you forget up one part of the question you're likely to forget up both parts
it doesn't really seem that the teachers like it that much either, as i've heard from practically all of them that it's harder than the tests that we used to take here--- and that every so often we have to get practice on parcc

as of now there's 13 states that use the parcc standardized testing system (including district of columbia)

i don't really know that much about common core in general but i think it's pretty relevant to the topic at the very least

[hillkill]

common core really doesn't give you the opportunity to use critical thinking, you're just focused on what score you're going to get on your tests, homework, etc. i feel it also kills creativity. i see it predominantly when students ask the teacher if they can do this or that on an essay.


on the topic of censorship: no one should deem what you shouldn't be able to see and what you should, it should be your own decision.

don't see the problem with allowing women to go in the military, whatever saves my ass from going into combat.

[Insert Name Here]

Common core: No
Censorship: NO.
Women in military: Yes

[Torin]

was that bannable?

it's dismissive stuffposting