Author Topic: [DATA] Opinions Thread -- legal marijuana, abortion, and universal healthcare  (Read 7122 times)

Marriage should be a word reserved for religious ceremony, and all marriages should be called civil unions secularly. I think this respects both sides very agreeably.
^^^^

FYI, this claim is false
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
It was started when ^ that guy published a study (which has since been disproven and retracted) "proving" links between autism and the MMR vaccine, in order to boost sales of a competitor vaccine he was developing
i have been educated, thx

so can I pencil you do as pro-gay marriage?
Yeah sure I don't give a hoot

Global warming should be mandatory, gay marriage is real, and vaccines should be legal.

global warming is real because it gets hot durng winter

FYI, this claim is false
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
It was started when ^ that guy published a study (which has since been disproven and retracted) "proving" links between autism and the MMR vaccine, in order to boost sales of a competitor vaccine he was developing
His study was really bad anyway. I don't know why anybody believed it.

It was a grand total of 9 anonymous children who specifically came to the hospital with symptoms, so it a. wasn't a random sample (fallacy of biased statistics), b. was an incredibly small sample size (fallacy of hasty generalization), c. he had no reason to connect the illnesses with the MMR vaccine (fallacy of correlation =/= causation) and d. he had a metric forgetton of conflicts of interest and shady behaviour. Literally nothing about the study should have been taken seriously in the first place.


results for contentious concern are as follows:

GLOBAL WARMING: (20 opinions total)
(18) 90.0% believe global warming is real and is caused by humans
(0) 0.00% do not believe global warming is real and caused by humans
(2) 10.0% are on the fence

GAY MARRIAGE: (20 opinions total)
(20) 100.0% support gay marriage
(0) 0.00% do not support gay marriage
(0) 0.00% are on the fence

MANDATORY VACCINES: (20 opinions total)
(15) 75.0% support mandatory vaccines
(3) 15.0% do not support mandatory vaccines
(2) 10.0% are on the fence



we'll now shift gears onto the topics of animal testing, school uniforms, and church tax exemption

Pro animal testing.
Seriously its better then testing on humans imo. Well maybe on prisoners would be a great idea

Pro school uniforms. I like the look, theyre formal and a smaller line between poor and rich. Everybody is the same and you cant make fun off people who cant afford expensive clothing

Contra church whatever
I honestly have no Idea what it is but it has tax and tax is  ad so forget that stuff

pro animal testing

pro school uniforms

on the fence with church tax exemption

pro-animal testing
humans are superior animals to most others and othey are easily disposable and replaceable
don't take my stance on this as pro-animal abuse because the two are completely different

anti-school uniforms
i'll dress however i damn well please

anti-church tax exemptions
churches are a business and need to be taxed, just like other businesses

Pro-Animal Testing. If we can justify eating animals, then nothing is off the table besides intentional torture.

Anti-School Uniforms. There are very few justifiable reasons to have a school uniform, and they don't apply in 99% of situations.

Anti-Church Tax Exemption. The Church my family used to go recently had plans to build a million-dollar complex next to the main building. Emphasis on million dollar, they were practically bragging about it. No non-profit organization has that kind of money, and it should pay taxes according to its income.

Animal testing, sure I guess

School uniforms, idgaf

Church tax, tax the forgeters

Animal testing: it's unfortunate that it's done, but I don't really see any alternatives except for test on humans, or live (which "live" in some cases can mean "die") without them

School uniforms: I've really never had an opinion on this.

Church exemption: I see no issue with it as long as it's done fairly. The idea behind the establishment clause is that the government should not favor one religion. As long as all religious (and non-religious) groups are treated equally in regards to tax exemption, there really isn't any establishment.
I have however heard that there's specific restrictions on things that non-profits can't do, and that some churches are violating them and not having non-profit status revoked, in that case they should be taxed

- students oppose uniforms
This is kind of a nonsensical argument.
"I oppose them because I oppose them"
 I'm not arguing against the stance, I just don't get this argument.

The Church my family used to go recently had plans to build a million-dollar complex next to the main building. Emphasis on million dollar, they were practically bragging about it. No non-profit organization has that kind of money, and it should pay taxes according to its income.
There's plenty of non-profits with a ton of income. They're businesses like any other, just a slightly different goal.
I just looked up the first non-profit I could think of, United Way, specifically Greater Twin Cities United Way since that's where I live, and found that their CEO is paid over $300k/yr
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Animal testing yes.
School uniforms no
Taxing churches on the fence (all but one church which I know for a fact uses the profits solely for missionary work but all the others can go die)

This is kind of a nonsensical argument.
"I oppose them because I oppose them"
 I'm not arguing against the stance, I just don't get this argument.
I think that particular plank is told from the perspective of "those who are directly affected by uniforms don't like it," not so much from the perspective of the students themselves

that's what I see from it, anyway