so a plant is not alive then?
Let me rephrase what I mean by "alive."
You and me are relatively socially alive.
A plant is a plant.
An unborn baby doesn't mentally exist yet.
Some scientists say babies don't develop consciousness until after a few months from being born.**
**Before you counter that. The baby may not have conscious after being born but it is slowly developing it over time, so no it's not okay to abort a baby in that state.