Is my logic false?

[Marios]

Well, to put it bluntly, this thread is a thread looking for sympathy. Don't post or go to another thread just yet, I will elaborate.
Why am I doing this? Well, I've lost all hope, and I am getting desperate. The following statements are ones which every single person I've met disagrees with me, outside of my schoolmates, perhaps, who appear to imply they agree, but haven't exactly called anything out. Yes, "every single person" includes my family. I've pretty much got no idea if I am rightfully self-righteous or incorrectly self-righteous anymore.

The statements now follow.

• When someone is being a jackass to you, they shouldn't be angry when you then become a jackass to them. (My answer: Yes, Anyone else's answer: No)
• When someone is being a jackass to you again, and you shout or hit them, you instantly lose every point you have right. (My answer: If they're purposefully pissing you off at former, depends on latter, Anyone else's answer: Yes)
• (To Remember What Else I Have In Disagreement Soon Sometime In The Future)

Now, I am asking you, BLF, on what the most correct answers to the above statements are. I don't care if this is the best forum to ask, I simply don't. Don't take this as a joke (though if you really can't be full serious, try being at least semi-serious.) Be as brutally honest as you want (I am indeed seeing this coming), and provide as many context as you deem necessary. After you answer to the statements, please tell me who is actually the most wrong/right here. Don't pull any punches.
This actually does seem like grounds for debate, so I'll list BLF's answers under this line when enough answers come.

TL;DR/I'm confused/WTF?: Last paragraph.

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[cooolguy32]

Wait I don't get it, what are you asking us to do?

[The Resonte!]

for the first question


on one hand if they're being a jerk they shouldn't be surprised to get treated like a jerk

on the other hand the point of being a jackass to a jackass is to get them angry so they know how others become angry


those are the thoughts that i have had regarding that

[boyay]

I'm confused

[Marios]

Wait I don't get it, what are you asking us to do?

I'm confused

The last paragraph from OP:

Now, I am asking you, BLF, on what the most correct answers to the above statements are. I don't care if this is the best forum to ask, I simply don't. Don't take this as a joke (though if you really can't be full serious, try being at least semi-serious.) Be as brutally honest as you want (I am indeed seeing this coming), and provide as many context as you deem necessary. After you answer to the statements, please tell me who is actually the most wrong/right here. Don't pull any punches.

[Loser]

Honestly just try not to care what people think. Everyone has different opinions. Nobody else really matters and all in all it's not a big deal.

[Path]

just be nice to everyone and the problem solves itself

[Jairo]

have you ever heard the phrase "take the high ground"?

[WaterOre]

if someone's being objectively starfishish towards you in an argument, the last thing you want to do is validate their behavior by mimicking it.

[cooolguy32]

Edit: nevermind. What the others said.

[Marios]

Honestly just try not to care what people think. Everyone has different opinions. Nobody else really matters and all in all it's not a big deal.

You're perfectly right on that and I wish I could just do that, but I am often enforced by my family (not all at once, of course; usually my older brother) to abide to their logic. Whenever we argue about that, it never goes well. Whenever I just say we stop arguing because it harms both sides, they say that I am just trying to avoid "the way the world goes, Mario."

just be nice to everyone and the problem solves itself

I am nice to them, but I still have these differences when I disagree.

have you ever heard the phrase "take the high ground"?

Not really; what does it mean? Serious question.

if someone's being objectively starfishish towards you in an argument, the last thing you want to do is validate their behavior by mimicking it.

I think this is probably one of the wrongs I've been doing for a long time, thank you.

[Foxscotch]

When someone is being a jackass to you, they shouldn't be angry when you then become a jackass to them. (My answer: Yes, Anyone else's answer: No)

in this case I'm guessing you were talking to "anyone else" about a specific situation you were in, and you didn't actually ask them that question, but just if they thought it was reasonable for them to be upset about what you did. and if they said it was reasonable for them to be upset, then your reaction was probably over the top for what you were reacting to, because most people wouldn't normally feel that way

When you have problems with someone and you shout or hit them, you instantly lose every point you have right.

what do you mean by "problems"? hitting someone is arguably never an appropriate reaction, and especially not if they're not hitting you

[Marios]

in this case I'm guessing you were talking to "anyone else" about a specific situation you were in, and you didn't actually ask them that question, but just if they thought it was reasonable for them to be upset about what you did. and if they said it was reasonable for them to be upset, then your reaction was probably over the top for what you were reacting to, because most people wouldn't normally feel that way

If I got this right, I roughly used to do this when I was younger. Now I believe I am just borderline OTT.

[a] what do you mean by "problems"? [letter b (to avoid making this text bold)] hitting someone is arguably never an appropriate reaction, and especially not if they're not hitting you

a) Well, I had expected you'd find out it meant "Something happened to you thanks to this guy"
b) I would also do that when I was younger, now I do nothing more than shout but it appears to be dealt the exact same way as if I had hit the guy/gal.

[Foxscotch]

Well, I had expected you'd find out it meant "Something happened to you thanks to this guy"

that's not specific enough. many things could happen, to which neither yelling nor hitting someone would be reasonable reactions

[Ipquarx]

If you're being a jackass to someone because they're being a jackass to you, all that shows is that you're willing to stoop to their level. At the very least, it reflects poorly on you.