Author Topic: Democrats sitting-in congress for a vote on gun control  (Read 15318 times)

how about we just kill loving everybody
that way there's nothing to shoot up

my whole life is just cold, bitter hatred...

the conservatives are being inappropriately flippant and smug when addressing the democrat sit-in while the liberals are trying their best to form a cohesive argument in favor of gun control

lol could you be any more biased

the conservatives are being inappropriately flippant and smug when addressing the democrat sit-in
The Conservatives are doing a thing I don't like so that makes them dumb

What's handicapped is you putting political assassination in the context of gun-free zones. The concept of a 0 gun tolerance policy in a gay bar in Orlando is a lot different than armed bodyguards in a government building. You're talking about making it impossible for a single man to commit a murder during a Self Delete mission. That's handicapped.
I was directly responding to Planr, who stated that a heavily armed crowd would stop murders. I stated that it's easy to pull out a gun and fire before anyone knows what's going on. Keep in mind--this is a hypothetical world in which everyone has a gun and there are no gun-free zones, as he suggested.

I guarantee you a man who's willing to die trying to kill a senator in a room full of armed bodyguards isn't going to give the slightest forget about your gun-free zones or firearm regulation. He's going to go down the road to the nearest gun-show, walk outside into the parking lot where there are bunch of people selling unaccountable weapons, and make an illegal purchase for one of the +330,000,000 firearms in the streets of America.
Except he doesn't need to a buy a gun, he already has one. And he wont give a forget about gun-free zones, because they don't exist.

If it 'exclusively applies to civilians' why are you spouting stuff about local senators and bodyguards? The reason why gun-free zones works in government buildings is because there's generally 3 armed men within 5ft of the doorman checking for guns.
Yea, never disagreed with this. Don't quite know what you think said here. You don't need bodyguards to detect guns, just a metal detector. You'll need trained guns to get rid of shooting guns though.

Expecting every public establishment to hire armed security is handicapped. As a matter of fact in the context of a gay-bar in Orlando, it's against federal law to have an armed bodyguard inside the establishment (where alcohol is being sold). A "gun free zone" is just some stuff that makes people feel safe, it's security theater, it doesn't actually do anything besides disarm the people who actually didn't plan on walking through the door shooting.
Yea, I never said that. I said that while an armed crowd wouldn't stop a killer with a plan, a gun-free free zone could.

You've completely misinterpreted my argument and responded to it through an incredible strawman fallacy.

the conservatives are being inappropriately flippant and smug when addressing the democrat sit-in while the liberals are trying their best to form a cohesive argument in favor of gun control
so pretty much every thread like this

I feel that we should make gun free zones guarded, and I feel we should have better screening when giving out firearms. But I feel we should still be allowed fire arms and ccw.

so pretty much every thread like this
pretty much yeah. and when the conservatives get countered they suddenly lose the ability to properly argue and resort to cheap comments

and apparently I'm hurting their feelings despite not being a liberal but whatever


pretty much yeah. and when the conservatives get countered they suddenly lose the ability to properly argue and resort to cheap comments
I don't think this is exclusive to conservatives.


Yea, I addressed this in what I consider one of my most well-written posts.

sit-ins are a fundamental form of protest but i really don't know if it's the best course of action in this particular scenario.
How is a bunch of mondays not getting their way and whining about it the same as supporting gun control?

pretty much yeah. and when the conservatives get countered they suddenly lose the ability to properly argue and resort to cheap comments

Who's been countered and how?

Also all you've done is make cheap comments on the discussion at hand.
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I don't think this is exclusive to conservatives.
when I looked at the thread I missed a few pages, but yes it appears that both sides are guilty of stuffslinging. so I suppose its in the best interest of everyone to return to the main issue

when I looked at the thread I missed a few pages, but yes it appears that both sides are guilty of stuffslinging.
What else would you expect from an argument on the internet Jairo lol

What else would you expect from an argument on the internet Jairo lol
more smug anime girls tbh

I wanna bring my collection up to 15k

to say that someone who has taken one day of training to operate a handgun is less prone to mistakes as a trained police officer is ridiculous lol
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/02/comparing-conviction-rates-between-police-and-concealed-carry-permit-holders/

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/10/police-officers-likely-to-murder-than-concealed-carry-permit/

http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/concealed-carry/

no, it's not. also, last i checked police only have to qualify with handling firearms once per year, with no emphasis on realism in their tests. every ccw holder i know goes shooting at least 4 times a year

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/03/mike-mcdaniel/leave-police-theyre-professionals/


when I looked at the thread I missed a few pages, but yes it appears that both sides are guilty of stuffslinging. so I suppose its in the best interest of everyone to return to the main issue
I can proudly say I don't think I've flung a single ball of stuff this entire debate. Before responding to this with a heart "LOL" Red Spy, please quote me doing so.

I think it's very difficult for either side to return to the main issue after it's diverted. When you change the topic, you leave a lot of loose threads that are never addressed, and a lot of users (myself included) feel like if they don't speak out against something in a debate, you are agreeing with it in a way.


so he pledged allegiance to CIA to terrorize people. so.. he's a terrorist. what makes him any different? terrorism is terrorism. i don't care what the reasoning behind it is and what label they carry.

honestly if you want potential terrorists living near you why don't you just go to the middle east yourself.

I'm not going to deny that the dude is pretty much a terrorist

good job