Author Topic: Tenzuni: self-proclaimed tribal  (Read 24013 times)

I havent watched yet bc i was making foo, ima watch it right now

What is "foo"

What is "foo"
Probably that idiot with the afro from LMFAO

Probably that idiot with the afro from LMFAO
Oh

Why was he making him them

Oh

Why was he making him them
Probably meant he was making love to him but forgot a few words

Probably meant he was making love to him but forgot a few words
I don't want that image in my head

I've been waiting to use this video for so loving long so thank you

Although he speaks well, white privilege is not equated to a "tribal America".

If you bothered to watch the video yourself, you would realize that the examples he is giving are entirely separate from the ones I have given.

For example, in regards to dress, he specifically talked about the effects of someone telling a white man to pull his pants up versus a black man, ignorantly suggesting that if a white man told a black man to pull his pants up, they would be perceived as tribal, which makes no sense whatsoever and rarely occurs.

In regards to public speaking, he says that people wrongly claim that whites have it BETTER OFF with public speaking skills than blacks. I am not saying this. I simply mentioned that the mental response of a person speaking to an articulate black man (without previously knowing him) is often regarded as more surprising than a white person. This is also pointed out in society as "talking white," which I have been subjected to by both my white, and black, counterparts.


He is obviously anti-Obama, and he, HIMSELF, claims that Obama is only regarded as such a well-spoken person due to the "Affirmative Action points" given to him by the media. Completely nullifies his point due to his obvious bias regarding his views on Obama's character.

He also says something that I disagree with regarding Affirmative Action having a factor in modern-day education, and how many "lesser-qualified blacks" are being accepted into positions that their white counterparts do not get. He mentions Asians in here as well for some reason.

A very simple example to debunk his claim that white people are not treated differently by police is the War on Drugs, in which drug-addicted or drug-dealing blacks were severely punished by way of unnecessarily long periods of incarceration, whilst their wealthier white counterparts were not given NEARLY as harsh of punishments for having the same drug-related issues. This, of course, also deals with economics regarding rich versus poor, but crack, what poor blacks were utilizing and distributing, was still treated with more severity than pure cocaine.

Regarding the effects of poor black America stemming from past events, it is true that many blacks need to take personal responsibility regarding familial and financial aspects. However, the rampant lack of education in poorer black communities (often engulfed in many gang-related and drug-related issues) further perpetuates this reality.

I appreciate the video, but this man has done absolutely nothing to "destroy" the concept of white privilege in America. I respect his viewpoint, but the title of the video is completely off.


And again, "white privilege" has NOTHING to do with racism, nor does it mean that you should feel ASHAMED of your race.

if you don't believe that past generations/centuries of oppression and powerlessness have lasting effects today, you will not find the idea of white privilege compelling in the least, because white privilege is pretty much just a fancy word for the same idea

I don't get what your point is though?

All you're saying is white privilege is not equated to racism and a "tribal America".

Okay great but that's not what this drama is about.

There are alot of programs in the government ( that he mentions) meant to help people of color. Affirmative action is meant help minorities but what i really does is only allows certain amount or minorities to get in rather than accepting people base off of merit which unfortunately disadvantages minorities. His view seems to be very linear. He only address the stats but not the other factors that tie into the facts.

As ive said before, i myself have experienced descrimination first hand. Darker skin people are seen more negatively by society than lighter skin people have been.

Also, have you watch my videos?

I don't get what your point is though?

All you're saying is white privilege is not equated to racism and a "tribal America".

Okay great but that's not what this drama is about.
Really? but you wont call out the people who are offtopic that agree with you.

if you don't believe that past generations/centuries of oppression and powerlessness have lasting effects today, you will not find the idea of white privilege compelling in the least, because white privilege is pretty much just a fancy word for the same idea
Correct me if I'm wrong but what you're saying is that America's still tribal?
There are alot of programs in the government ( that he mentions) meant to help people of color. Affirmative action is meant help minorities but what i really does is only allows certain amount or minorities to get in rather than accepting people base off of merit which unfortunately disadvantages minorities. His view seems to be very linear. He only address the stats but not the other factors that tie into the facts.
What "other facts"
Also, have you watch my videos?
They're biased as forget and they've been debunked before (countless times actually)

Correct me if I'm wrong but what you're saying is that America's still tribal?What "other facts"They're biased as forget and they've been debunked before (countless times actually)
ok then were done here. You haven't taken the time to watch my videos but we have watched yours with an open mind. You obviously havent opened your mind to understanding the other side so i dont see the point in continuing discussion with you.

ok then were done here. You haven't taken the time to watch my videos but we have watched yours with an open mind. You obviously havent opened your mind to understanding the other side so i dont see the point in continuing discussion with you.
they've been debunked before (countless times actually)

I don't get what your point is though?

All you're saying is white privilege is not equated to racism and a "tribal America".

Okay great but that's not what this drama is about.

Many people were asking for a definition of "white privilege," which I provided and was refuted by Red Spy, which I also addressed. 

In the video given to me by Red Spy, the man spoke of the term "white privilege" as if it meant people were saying "America is inherently tribal."

What I'm saying is that white privilege only extends to describe the long-lasting effects that ones skin color has on their perception in society, and in particular, American society.

Correct me if I'm wrong but what you're saying is that America's still tribal?
no, i wasn't actually making any claims, i was just trying making a correlation that might make this discussion a lot easier

if you're asking for my opinion, i do believe there is still racial inequality in america, not in conscious, unforgiving racism like the civil rights era, more so just in economic and educational disparities that result in a pretty fair inequality of opportunity for certain minority groups. if your quality of education is stuff, and you're raised in relative poverty so your upbringing is stuff and everything around you is stuff, your outlook on life will probably be stuff and you probably won't come out a great person. i don't worry so much about social aspects because at this point they're elusive and probably on their way out anyway, there's not much substance there.

but i'm assuming the whole discussion is about those elusive forms of social inequality, and not about things that are so easily quantifiable. for that i'll just say there are definitely still and will always be tribal people; i'm not convinced they have as much a share in government anymore, but if someone's personal experience involves enough of those pressures, then they will be affected by them and they will be worse off for it, at the very least in terms of their mental health and well-being.