Nonnel's Nation RP: Peace in our Time - I LEFT IT A CITY OF MARBLE! [FALL 2005]

[Maxwell.]

also honestly guys if someone was to form a democratic-only alliance, it'd be pretty loving useless. all the major democratic powers (excluding france) have made a sharp turn and became fascists overnight in 1936, with an overly submissive population that realistically would probably lead to major rebellions within the first few months if not the next night. i'm not sure how american patriot cousin jimmy that resembles 85% of the united states down the road in alabama with his hunting rifle is going to react to uncle bobby getting his head smashed into the sidewalk for not wanting an american dictatorship and wanting to keep the constitution active, as if the congress & british parliament being abolished wasn't a major red flag from the beginning and a call to the average american citizen or british colonials & their armies

this isn't the america we've got going around today, mind you, this is america & britain in 1936-1937. just because the world is in a great depression (im assuming the UK was hit too) doesn't mean everyone has lost all their morals & values. it's ridiculous that two of the most democratic powers in the world could get by so easily with suddenly becoming totalitarian fascists, abolishing their stuff with no real resistance. cousin jimmy down the road with his gun, you remember him? he's not going to pick up that rifle and fight apparently, no, he's going to take to the streets of atlanta with a picket sign in his hands are try to get into a fistfight with some government employee before someone says they send down military police. british india? nah, they're not going to resist, they're just going to voice their disdain before their own colonial army turns on them and submits to the british immediately. nope, no widespread violence here, just one or two posts and that's it. the fact that you guys whine about a non-democratic country being invited to an alliance of the one or two actual democratic powers of the world is ridiculous and stupid if you've been able to do all this to yourselves

coming from the guy that just outright annexed turkey with seemingly no meaingful resistance, but i'll let nonnel deal with that

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[Decepticon]

coming from the guy that just outright annexed turkey with seemingly no meaingful resistance, but i'll let nonnel deal with that

nope

With the desire for expansion still filling their hearts, the call to war sounds again. After months of reorganization, Italian armies in the Balkans go on the move for their final conquest. Infantry Divisions storm Thrace, along with motorized divisions, assisted by light armor brigades, and the first use of medium armor brigades. Istanbul is the target of the offense, with Ankara being the ending point of the offense. Naval Transports and other naval assets are made use of, invading western Anatolia from Greek Naval Bases. The Italian Navy is made use of, securing the escort of the transports.

Romania & Bulgaria, Italy's fresh allies, are called to arms.

i waited 5 days of war, i'm not sure why nonnel didn't post about them fighting back, maybe he just doesn't do that because he couldn't care to and let it go on in the background, but you're in the wrong here. i'll let nonnel post about what kind of resistance comes from turkey, and i'll deal with it how it should be. i've also noticed he's posted about no resistance coming from the balkans which is bullstuff, too

but the point of my post is that if you guys were able to get away with so much of this stuff then you shouldn't complain about an alliance of democratic & non democratic countries

[Maxwell.]

nope

i waited 5 days of war, i'm not sure why nonnel didn't post about them fighting back, maybe he just doesn't do that because we're yet to see a war not involving italy or the netherlands, but you're in the wrong here. i'll let nonnel post about what kind of resistance comes from turkey, and i'll deal with it how it should be. i've also noticed he's posted about no resistance coming from the balkans which is bullstuff, too, but the point of my post is that if you guys were able to get away with so much of this stuff then you shouldn't complain about an alliance of democratic & non democratic countries

and I waited days to become fascist through political support, are me and juncoph supposed to set up our own resistances and control them? that's nonnels job, and we're supposed to react, the same way he's supposed to set up resistance to your wars or whatever

I have no idea why the US didn't get any resistance, and it didn't make sense, but I did and maybe it could've been larger if that's what you want?? I just lost my allies too along with becoming fascist, there's no use bitching at us for that really because I got a huge hit because of it, and I'm more annoyed at the fact nonnel's completely ignoring juns loving points

[Decepticon]

and I waited days to become fascist through political support, are me and juncoph supposed to set up our own resistances and control them? that's nonnels job, and we're supposed to react

the only thing i'm saying you guys were in the wrong about is bitching about non-democratic countries being invited to an alliance of democratic countries after being able to get away with all this, while i'm also saying nonnel is in the wrong because there should have been much more resistance from the US populace & your colonies more than just them going to the streets and waiting to get beat down

I just lost my allies too along with becoming fascist, there's no use bitching at us for that really because I got a huge hit because of it

you lost, what, one or two allies? france? dang, and then you managed to gain germany & the US, the most powerful nations of the world at this time

[Maxwell.]

you lost, what, one or two allies? france? dang, and then you managed to gain germany & the US, the most powerful nations of the world at this time

I love how you treat that like I'm genuinely complaining over it, try reading

I'm saying that me not getting punished for becoming fascist is bullstuff and it didn't happen, and that I did get punished for becoming fascist, at the time I lost all the former commonwealth colonies including canada, australia, new zealand and nearly india as well as france because of it who were my only thought out allies at the time. forget me for not predicting I'd join the axis later down the line (which I didn't want to really) right?

[Decepticon]

I love how you treat that like I'm genuinely complaining over it, try reading

i couldn't care less about who you lost or not, i'm only bothered that you guys are going at nonnel for making a large NPC alliance in response to your large player alliance, like i said

[Maxwell.]

i couldn't care less about who you lost or not, like i said, i'm only bothered that you guys are going at nonnel for making a large NPC alliance in response to your large player alliance

so what's with the "dang" at that post? looks like you're telling me to quit whining over something I'm not

whatever, this argument is just stupid and the rp should carry on, and we should both just stop arguing

[Decepticon]

whatever, this argument is just stupid and the rp should carry on, and we should both just stop arguing

yeah, it's better if we just drop it now and get on with the game

[Maxwell.]

honestly though you've reminded me of a fair point, I didn't want a large player alliance with germany or you, I just wanted me and america cause our focuses were aligned and I just didn't express any resentment to it, nationalism was about my ideals, not Riddlers. it's also cause the other rp we were all in huge mega alliances and I just don't really want two huge alliances clashing here, or causing issues because of dumb logic or whatnot like I knew it somehow would

I'm gonna leave the fascitern, your focuses =/= ours

[Decepticon]

honestly though you've reminded me of a fair point, I didn't want a large player alliance with germany or you, I just wanted me and america cause our focuses were aligned and I just didn't express any resentment to it, nationalism was about my ideals, not Riddlers. it's also cause the other rp we were all in huge mega alliances and I just don't really want two huge alliances clashing here, or causing issues because of dumb logic or whatnot

I'm gonna leave the fascitern, your focuses =/= ours

yeah, this is exactly how i feel about it. now that i look back, i didn't express that very clearly at all. i sorta wanted the anglosphere & axis to be seperate, too, and i think i expressed that once before with tristan in a private chat, but i think i wasn't being clear enough at that time, too. the whole mega-alliance thing was what i was trying to avoid

even though the british have left, fascintern is still pretty much international, and seeing more need for a focus on european & domestic issues, italy also leaves the global alliance

[Gojira]

japan joins the un, and continues to push into china

[Juncoph]

the US begins taking steps to scrap the fascintern, but offers a direct alliance to finland to protect their independence


if the "un" in its current state isnt scrapped im considering leaving the rp. decepticon is right about the anglospheric unrest but that's not a valid excuse for this megacoalition of states that would otherwise hate each other. and while we're on the subject of unrealistic events, how is italy just roflstomping its way through the balkans and anatolia? italy historically hit a brick wall in greece which only the germans were able to break through.

the fascintern might've been an attempted mega alliance but it was a justified one. it opposed communism. it was modeled after the anti-commie post-ww2 mindset that landed britain, west germany, and italy on the same side, only this time it's fascism replacing democracies, not the other way around.

now that the fascintern is dead and the only fascist nations that've invaded with no real justification (italy, britain) are on their own (besides de facto cooperation with germany and the US, respectively), will the un be shrinking? or is it still going to be the very thing it was meant to combat, only exponentially more loving handicapped?

i'm really getting sick of this stuff. let me remind everyone that the war against japan is one where i'm not only cooperating with non-fascists but i'm doing it in the name of protecting the chinese. so don't loving use the second sino-japanese war as an example of why the un should linger.

[Maxwell.]

now that the fascintern is dead and the only fascist nations that've invaded with no real justification (italy, britain) are on their own (besides de facto cooperation with germany and the US, respectively), will the un be shrinking? or is it still going to be the very thing it was meant to combat, only exponentially more loving handicapped?

what do you mean no real reason, do you think you peacefully annexing canada in a hoot is a realer reason than us two declaring war for resources and fighting our way there?

[Juncoph]

what do you mean no real reason, do you think you peacefully annexing canada in a hoot is a realer reason than us two declaring war for resources?

it's pan-americanism. it's a stuff excuse but it's still a genuine appeal to nationalism. same applies to germany's attitude towards poland (polish corridor), austria, and the sudetenland. i'm not trying to say that the uk and italy shouldn't have the right to invade, but i am saying that they don't have a justification besides imperialism

[Maxwell.]

it's pan-americanism. it's a stuff excuse but it's still a genuine appeal to nationalism. same applies to germany's attitude towards poland (polish corridor), austria, and the sudetenland.

ok, so explain how OUR reasons aren't real justifications

decepticon might be pushing through uncontested for some reason, but that doesn't make his reasons for war less valid

i'm not trying to say that the uk and italy shouldn't have the right to invade, but i am saying that they don't have a justification besides imperialism

that's a perfectly valid justification, what are you even on about