Author Topic: Harsh punishment, or do I not see how stupid I am?  (Read 5133 times)

This was on Trogtor's Floating City building server.

Okay, so I'm going to try to be as unbiased as possible. I have no evidence as I'm asking for your opinion on whether this punishment was harsh. I feel like it was, myst probably feels like it was fine, I'm not saying they're intentionally being mean. They're probably a bit grumpy at me. I'm not saying myst is terrible, I'm asking if myst is terrible or if I am, and for some reason I get the feeling you're going to say I am.

Day 1
Log in, do stuff, try to build maglev stuff with radius impulse, give up.
Clear my bricks.
Build a little UFO to suck people into an alien lab.
At some point I see a poll thing that says "Is Trogtor cool?" I say no to see what happens. My ears are assaulted and my FOV is set to something insane, lights are flashing and everything is rainbow, I'm trapped in a room of coolsmiles. Even after using ctrl-k my FOV is still messed up, I had to go into my settings to fix it. This is where I got my idea of the server's tolerance for pranks.
Log off and go to sleep. Nobody has told me to stop doing anything aside from bugging Cazzle with rockets, which isn't why I was banned. I stopped when asked.

Day 2
Alien ships are gone. I build one directly next to the lab to make it clear they're related, build another above on a street planning to remove it before I log out.
I make it hard to get sucked into the UFO or even notice the UFO is trying to suck you up unless you try to get sucked up. (You have to stand still and attempt to stay in the beam for like five whole seconds which is a lot of time for a 2x2 area to be walked through. You can walk through without really noticing it aside from the laser.)
I clear my bricks except for some unrelated house at some point either here or after the following prank.
Myst has said nothing, nobody on the staff has said anything to me about this.
I build a music brick as a joke that, following the rules, can be toggled off, but after 30 seconds throws you into the air and makes you blow up if you turn it off. I prank a few people and they go boom, at least a few people found it funny and nobody was like "THATS RUDE STOP THAT."
I build some USEFUL transport blocks that throw you to another color of path, since the different colors aren't connected. I was trying to be helpful with this. Almost forgot even now that I made them. Didn't remove those since I forgot about them... Or did I clear them? Anyways, I had no malicious or hilarious intentions, I just wanted to be helpful!
I remove one, the one I was duplicating around, and I thought I removed the other that I duplicated it from.
Myst has still said nothing, nor anyone on the staff.
I make a pill bottle floating above the road. I think I removed it? I was just trying something I saw someone else do with a specific brick pack. No malicious or prankster-y intentions. Pretty unimportant.
I make a bot standing on the road, in a corner, not really blocking traffic. Obviously a work in progress, as it talks to you but the conversation ends abruptly.
I make... ugh... I immaturely make a brown sideways cylinder that, when clicked, says "DO NOT QUESTION THE MYSTICAL FLOATING TURD". When touched, it says "HOW DARE YOU TOUCH THE MYSTICAL FLOATING TURD" and kills you. Something prompted this on the server, I forget what. I duplicate it around, presenting it to various players. Nobody touches it, several people click it and wander off thinking I'm immature. I present it to myst, they click it, wrench it, snipe me with their magical sniper rifle, and d-wand it. Okay, not acceptable. I remove my copy of it, and remove all other floating bricks of mine I can remember placing over roads aside from the bot. I ask myst if the bot is okay. They don't respond. I ask Flamecannon, they don't know whether it's ok. I say I'll move it somewhere else if necessary. They help me with coloring the text. While I'm coloring the text on a third line, I get banned for "Constant floating bricks over paths." 30 minutes. Paths are... A grey area? You're kind of supposed to not block them, after I posted about being banned in the thread for the server, Conan said "Don't build random spam with no intention over paths, or we'll clear it." Myst was actually dealing with someone else at the same time who had built an entire house over a path. I hadn't ever blocked a path or done anything more than a brick or two over it, and always as a joke aside from the bot, the transport bricks (trying to help), and the UFO, which was far above the path (though its zone affects the path. Again, you basically had to be trying to get sucked up).
Yes, I was being annoying. I was never asked to stop aside from being shot (at which point I went and cleaned up what I could), my bricks were never cleared by anyone but me, I was never kicked. I was really unhappy since this seemed unfair. I had tried to remove what I could since Myst obviously didn't like it, even.
So I logged in with my alt. This is probably the point where I lose most of the people on my side.
I had named my alt to, and it still is named to, "oopssorrymyst."
I tried to apologize, but before I could even send one message I was kicked. That's kind of acceptable. I log back in and say "Can I talk?" Between that and Myst's response, I said "I thought I had cleaned it all up" or something to that affect. Myst said "No, you can't," so I left. Perfectly understandable, I'm perfectly willing to comply. If you don't want to allow me to even talk during the 30 minutes, which is unrelated, fine. Be that way.

And that's the story.

So...
Am I being stupid and whining about a fair punishment, or is myst being unecessarily harsh? I would expect a five-minute ban, a kick, a jail, etc., but 30 minutes with no warning other than being shot in the face outside of a minigame? Really? It's not like there's a penalty for death.

Please note that I'm not trying to say "Myst is a bad admin." I'm trying to give you unbiased evidence and let you form your own conclusion. If it weren't for the lack of edit in drama, I would say "I'd like it if myst would share their side of the story so I could add it to the first post."
Myst, I'd be happy if you shared your story despite the lack of edit, the sooner the better so it doesn't get buried in replies.

"harsh punishment" and "trogtor" do not mix; try "justified punishment"

i wouldn't call myst a badmin

bad cop is more of an apropriate term.

well deserved punishment

tldr:
op trolled and the admins didn't ban him quick enough

Tough love is the only love some understand.

tldr:
op trolled and the admins didn't ban him quick enough
Trolling is "I'm going to make these people unhappy for my amusement!"
It was a prank, they're supposed to be able to laugh at it too.

Trolling is "I'm going to make these people unhappy for my amusement!"
It was a prank, they're supposed to be able to laugh at it too.
OH! So it was only a prank, thanks for clearing that up.

This punishment seems fair, because you did break a rule, and continued to do what you were doing.
Although it may seem harsh, thirty minutes is not that bad, you could just go do a workout or watch a YouTube video.

/neutral

drama has no edit and that sucks
Tough love is the only love some understand.
Uh... I don't think there's really any love here :/
I think you mean "harsh punishment is the only thing some understand," and that's true. But I'm not dumb! I understood that when Myst shot me, I should work on cleaning up, but I was banned anyways. Myst could've also just said "Please stop." That would've worked just as well.
i wouldn't call myst a badmin

bad cop is more of an apropriate term.
Yeah I didn't call him a badmin... Badmin is someone who abuses it or looks for things that aren't hurting anyone but are teeeeeeeechnically against the rules, which myst didn't do. I was in the wrong, I'm just saying I think Myst was a bit harsh with the punishment since there was no warning (Other than being shot. I get shot, try to clean it up since I realized that myst didn't like it, and I'm banned anyways. Myst did not say a word until I logged in with my
OH! So it was only a prank, thanks for clearing that up.
There are some people who say "ITS JUST A PRANK BRO" when actual harm has been done and think that makes it okay, but there's no penalty for death.
This punishment seems fair, because you did break a rule, and continued to do what you were doing.
Although it may seem harsh, thirty minutes is not that bad, you could just go do a workout or watch a YouTube video.

/neutral
I... Don't remember seeing the rule listed anywhere? As I said, it felt like it was really a grey area. I did not "continue to do what I was doing" after the first indication it was something I shouldn't do. I don't think Myst even said anything. They just shot me, and d-wanded the offending brick. I cleaned up what I could since Myst obviously wanted it gone, but I was banned anyways.

noedit
still would like to hear myst's view of things, are they on the forums?

stillnoedit
I forgot, there was something else I did vaguely relevant. I used zonebricks to push Myst around while they were AFK sometime on the first day.

I'm just saying I think Myst was a bit harsh with the punishment since there was no warning

Honestly I don't think it was harsh enough. There should be no patience for people who purposely toe the line just so they can bait admins into banning them so they can spin a drama

I... Don't remember seeing the rule listed anywhere? As I said, it felt like it was really a grey area. I did not "continue to do what I was doing" after the first indication it was something I shouldn't do. I don't think Myst even said anything. They just shot me, and d-wanded the offending brick. I cleaned up what I could since Myst obviously wanted it gone, but I was banned anyways.

When you got banned for having floating bricks over the path, would be breaking a rule.  DUH