What's your ideology?

[MoltenKitten]

yeah, well, not mixed enough, evidently

How do you think it can be fixed?

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[Foxscotch]

How do you think it can be fixed?

step 1: significantly less military spending

that was like 600 billion for 2015. not nearly enough to pay everyone directly, but it could be used to fund research and development to further improve food/water/electricity production so that people don't have to work to just survive in the first place

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

If your incompitent little friendry mind thought that I would actually give one, you must be sadly mistaken.

incompitent

[MoltenKitten]

step 1: significantly less military spending

that was like 600 billion for 2015. not nearly enough to pay everyone directly, but it could be used to fund research and development to further improve food/water/electricity production so that people don't have to work to just survive in the first place

That is a fix to the budget, not a fix to the mixture of the economy. The military has next to nothing to do with capitalism anyway.

[Foxscotch]

That is a fix to the budget, not a fix to the mixture of the economy. The military has next to nothing to do with capitalism anyway.

I don't think you understand
part of capitalism is that everyone who is physically able is expected to work to live (pretty sure this is part of communism too, so obviously they are not the only two choices). this is definitely something that applies to the united states's version of capitalism. if military spending was swapped out for spending on food, water, electricity, and some other types of infrastructure (internet access, phones, housing), people could not have to pay for these things
therefore, they would not have to work to survive, getting rid of the worst part of capitalism

[Juncoph]

people could not have to pay for these things

you don't have a solid grasp of economics if you think the government could support everyone

[Nonnel]

but
if no one works then nothing gets done
how does this work

[Clownfish]

I support punching people

[Foxscotch]

you don't have a solid grasp of economics if you think the government could support everyone

as I said before:

improve food/water/electricity production

I am not talking about the government buying food for people. I am talking about automation. machines are far cheaper than human beings. the current defense budget could be very effectively repurposed to provide R&D towards this goal. paying the few people who would still be required for this purpose is something that the government could actually do

if no one works then nothing gets done
how does this work

not having to work to survive does not mean nobody will work. what it does mean is that more people can do things they actually want to do, which will cover pretty much everything that can't be automated

[Juncoph]

as I said before:I am not talking about the government buying food for people. I am talking about automation. machines are far cheaper than human beings. the current defense budget could be very effectively repurposed to provide R&D towards this goal. paying the few people who would still be required for this purpose is something that the government could actually do

what's this got to do with capitalism? you just want to reallocate funds

[Foxscotch]

what's this got to do with capitalism? you just want to reallocate funds

oh my god
if it is cheap enough to produce food and electricity and so on, the government can handle all of the costs of it, making it free to individuals, meaning you don't have to work to live
the requirement to work is (the worst) part of capitalism. if you can get the necessities without working, you don't need to work, which phases out the worst part of capitalism

[Juncoph]

oh my god
if it is cheap enough to produce food and electricity and so on, the government can handle all of the costs of it, making it free to individuals, meaning you don't have to work to live
the requirement to work is (the worst) part of capitalism. if you can get the necessities without working, you don't need to work, which phases out the worst part of capitalism

capitalism does not inherently require people to work. capitalism is the right to private industry, rather than state-controlled industry, which inevitably leads to tyranny. that's literally what monarchies were.

your proposals wouldn't be cutting at capitalism

[Daswiruch]

don't you have to work to survive in non-capitalism economies too, though?

[Maxwell.]

don't you have to work to survive in non-capitalism economies too, though?

in communism, yeah
in communism you get housed, fed and electricty paid so long as you work

also while I'm more on the opposite side of libertarianism, I agree that a majorly capitalist economy is the way to go

[Nonnel]

it's the same in communism, but that doesn't mean it's every non-capitalist ideology