Author Topic: [NEWS] Clinton vote lead grows to 2 mil; Stein opens recount req. in WI, MI, PA  (Read 20916 times)

Annoying Orange posted on Twitter after the election about how great the Electoral College is, only after it benefitted him. What happened to the whole reform thing?
But you expect him to close the tax loopholes that himself has been exploiting for years

I propose that if the popular vote is a significant margin over the electoral college, then the vote goes to Congress as a tiebreaker.

1.1 million isn't small.  But tyranny of the majority cannot be allowed.

my take:

The US is a super unique setup since it has remained in the same political order for so bloody long. A very large part of why this is so is because the us is not supposed to be a direct democracy, its a representative democracy. This sets up multiple checks and balances that are not voted in by the people, but voted in by a community the people voted in. This sets up multiple barriers between populist mood swings of the nation and actual permanent change in the country. This is why cameron calling for a referendum on leaving eu was such a stuffty thing to do, no one can comprehend all the moving parts in leaving the EU, but the people had to make a choice so they went with one of emotion, since the one of reason couldn't possibly appeal to them for being so complex. The reason the electoral college exists is if you have the large concentrations of populations with the same weight as the small concentrations, only the needs of large cities will be served. But imagine if suddenly you got rid of all the small rural areas, the farming areas, the foresting areas etc etc, the country would collapse to its knees in chaos and lack of infrastructure. So if the small concentrations of population are essentially irrelevant, the backbone of the entire nation is unrepresented. A country first and foremost is reliant on each part of it working properly with each other, its primary secondary tertiary and soon quaternary sector, so each of them needs to have their problems addressed and their development ensured, if you go for direct democracy, mainly the interests of the last two sectors are looked after.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 05:40:24 PM by Dannu »

man it's a good thing we have that bicameral legislative body which has one body which proportionately delegates seats to individual states and another one where each state gets an equal number of representatives that can represent the interests of the rural areas.

how unfortunate that gerrymandering is a thing

Annoying Orange posted on Twitter after the election about how great the Electoral College is, only after it benefitted him. What happened to the whole reform thing?
But you expect him to close the tax loopholes that himself has been exploiting for years
you sound mad

you sound mad
a little annoyed that he's so clearly only working in his own interest

idk where you live, but I'm assuming Not California. how does it feel knowing that your vote counts for less than a californian's thanks to the electoral college

Huh? Since CA is the most populous state, each persons vote means less than in any other state.

For example..
CA Population: 38,800,000
CA EC Votes: 55
Votes/Person: 0.0000014

RI Population: 1,055,000
RI EC Votes: 4
Votes/Person: 0.0000038

A voter in Rhode Island has roughly 2.7x the electing power of a voter in CA.

The point of the electoral college is to empower states with lower populations so they are not subjected to the rule of other states with higher populations.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 11:16:17 PM by $trinick »

Huh? Since CA is the most populous state, each persons vote means less than in any other state.
yeah I realized I had that backwards earlier when someone said...... something. I think it was nonnel
I think most reasonable people would (if after a little bit of consideration) decide that it's also not right to have more power than someone else just by default, but I can't imagine matthew actually coming to that conclusion regardless of how long he were to spend introspecting about it, so I figured it would be pointless to take another stab at it

might as well repurpose this thread because it still deals with the electoral college:

Quote from: sources
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/clinton-lead-popular-vote-2016-231790

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307326-cook-clinton-passes-2m-in-popular-vote-lead

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/jill-stein-election-recount-fund-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/hillary-clintons-lead-over-donald-Annoying Orange-in-the-popular-vote-has-now-passed-2-million-us-presidential-a7433826.html

https://news.vice.com/story/experts-urge-hillary-clinton-to-seek-recount-in-swing-states-over-electronic-voting?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

clinton's lead over Annoying Orange has surpassed two million in the popular vote, leading some to raise questions over voting patterns and whatnot. computer scientists and demographers have urged clinton to contest the results in some swing states, with jill stein (green party presidential candidate) opening recount requests in the battleground states of michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania

clinton won't call for a recount :^)

yeah I doubt she will. she did concede right away.


During voting night I heard massive reports of voter fraud. People have been saying that that is why Clinton isn't contesting it, because if they have a more thorough look into it they will find out about the voter fraud and she could get in stuff and would lose the popular vote. It sounds weird but it would make sense to why she isn't contesting it.

there's literally no way that there was enough fraud (if any at all) to constitute her not keeping her 2,000,000+ vote lead

Many of them were pulled from use early during voting because they "were defective" basically meaning fraudulent but it wasn't the time or place to determine that.

Fun fact, soros, who owns blm, is affiliated with the company most voting machines are made by.
That's why Clinton isn't pushing the issue, it would only prove her guilty of voter fraud.