Author Topic: Italian owner of a hotel forced to take in migrants, pushed out of own building  (Read 11959 times)

so instead of bringing forth an opinion or point to oppose what I was saying you just made fun of something with an exaggeration, great contribution.
the sun has a history of lying and manipulating facts to further an agenda
thats part of the reason why its a rag
(and not an exaggeration)
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Hey dumbass
Okay this was wildly unnecessary. You don't see me insulting you or Perry in this, chill out please.

Hey dumbass you know that they aren't sorting fleeing Syrians by religion right? It's literally him calling the entire populace of a country garbage. There are Christians and Jews and Atheists too--but since they are Syrian, it's overwhelmingly Islamic. It's as stupid as me saying "I hate Jews. It's not tribal because Jews aren't a race."
I see what you're trying to say but the first statement is completely wrong. I never said they're sorting them by religion, nor did I ever imply it. I do not know what you're trying to get at there. Plus, he isn't calling the entire country's population garbage. He's calling the religion that the immigrants follow garbage. Not the immigrants, nor the population, the religion.

Also what you said with "I hate Jews. It's not tribal because Jews aren't a race," is not wrong. It'd be tribal to say "I hate arabs" but not "I hate jews" or "I hate christians." Religion =/= Race or ethnic group. Stop saying it is when in fact, it isn't.

Also, I see you say this a lot. I've told you how stupid this is, so you can't possibly be asking a genuine question. I've already explained to you that certain religions are tied to certain ethnicities even know you already know it because despite your best efforts you aren't currently the stupidest person in America. There aren't a lot of Mexican Buddhists.
I've never asked or said this before, if I did I wouldn't have reasked it, I would have stated it because it is true that religion =/= race or ethnic group. Christianity is a widely spread out religion followed by all different sorts of races and ethnic groups, same with Islam and the sort. It is not tribal by saying that an ideology is toxic and does not work with the actualy civilized counties like France, Germany, UK, U.S.A, and etc. It is tribal by saying the people FOLLOWING the religion is bad / toxic, though.
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I've never asked or said this before, if I did I wouldn't have reasked it,
Yea, you have. You keep saying "Islam isn't a race" when I call anti-refugee sentiment tribal. No matter how many times I explain it's stupid, you persist. It's like arguing with a brick.

He's calling the religion that the immigrants follow garbage. Not the immigrants, nor the population, the religion.
Uh, no. Blatantly wrong again.
when 90% of immigrants are stuff heads like that guy I'd rather not

It'd be tribal to say "I hate arabs" but not "I hate jews" or "I hate christians." Religion =/= Race or ethnic group. Stop saying it is when in fact, it isn't.
"I hate Christians" isn't tribal because Christians aren't a race. "I hate Jews" IS tribal because Jewish is a race. Jesus christ why am I even wasting my time when you've shown yourself to be incapable of learning. There are dogs with better memory than you.


Yea, you have. You keep saying "Islam isn't a race" when I call anti-refugee sentiment tribal. No matter how many times I explain it's stupid, you persist. It's like arguing with a brick.
Quote me where I have then I will believe you, because I know I've never said "race =/= religion" before today.

Uh, no. Blatantly wrong again.
Did not see this, rip.

"I hate Christians" isn't tribal because Christians aren't a race. "I hate Jews" IS tribal because Jewish is a race. Jesus christ why am I even wasting my time when you've shown yourself to be incapable of learning. There are dogs with better memory than you.
Alright I did some looking into it and apparently using the word "Jews" would both be tribal and it wouldn't at the same time, due to it having a double meaning of a certain ethnic group, and it also meaning "people who follow and support judiasm." My point still stands though on which saying "Muslims are not good / civilized" is not tribal, due to the word "Muslim" only meaning people who follow Islam.

Jesus christ why am I even wasting my time when you've shown yourself to be incapable of learning. There are dogs with better memory than you.
Word of advice, insulting me does not make you more right and does not make people like you more. Stop already, it doesn't do anything other than make you seem very petty and wanting to invoke a reaction out of me. If you're going to argue, be mature about it, not childish.

Hey dumbass you know that 1. they aren't sorting fleeing Syrians by religion right? It's literally him calling the entire populace of a country garbage.2. There are Christians and Jews and Atheists too--but since they are Syrian, it's overwhelmingly Islamic. 3. It's as stupid as me saying "I hate Jews. It's not tribal because Jews aren't a race."

Also, I see you say this a lot. I've told you how stupid this is, so you can't possibly be asking a genuine question. 4. I've already explained to you that certain religions are tied to certain ethnicities even know you already know it because despite your best efforts you aren't currently the stupidest person in America. There aren't a lot of Mexican Buddhists.

1. Clearly they aren't sorting Syrian Refugees at all, considering how few of them actually come from syria.

2. Lol, no there aren't. The Religion of Islam is one of the least tolerant Religions left on this planet, if there are Christians and Atheists they're silent, fear of death does that. Also if there were any Jews they would almost certainly be dead.

3. That's not racism, that's antisemitism.

4. I have no Idea where you get this 'religion is tied to race' mentality from, No stuff there aren't a lot of Buddhists in Mexico, Buddhism isn't popular much elsewhere outside of the eastern countries, But that doesn't tie it to race, it ties it to relation. The reason why you don't see Buddhists in North America or Europe is because they aren't mass migrating from one place to another and spreading they're religion with them. It's not because religion has some magical connection to skin tone.

3. That's not racism, that's antisemitism.
It's both, but following your logic, does that make a difference? Is religious discrimination justified?

1. Clearly they aren't sorting Syrian Refugees at all, considering how few of them actually come from syria.

2. Lol, no there aren't. The Religion of Islam is one of the least tolerant Religions left on this planet, if there are Christians and Atheists they're silent, fear of death does that. Also if there were any Jews they would almost certainly be dead.

3. That's not racism, that's antisemitism.

4. I have no Idea where you get this 'religion is tied to race' mentality from, No stuff there aren't a lot of Buddhists in Mexico, Buddhism isn't popular much elsewhere outside of the eastern countries, But that doesn't tie it to race, it ties it to relation. The reason why you don't see Buddhists in North America or Europe is because they aren't mass migrating from one place to another and spreading they're religion with them. It's not because religion has some magical connection to skin tone.

hebrew is a race, milo

racism, antisemitism
semantics

I don't like any religion since they're all pretty cancerous but watching Christians try to say Islam is somehow worse than their own religion just makes me laugh.

Saying that 90% of refugees are garbage is not inherently tribal, since I guess you could be saying it's garbage to seek aid or something. It's just inherently stupid. But Rambo is obviously a tribal (and stupid), so trying to defend him really only makes you look bad too.

But even if we follow INH's logic, does he just want me to call him a xenophobe or something? Like, is it okay to discriminate by religion then?

3. That's not racism, that's antisemitism.
Should I... should I explain this? Like, I kinda want to sig this.

Recommenced reading for INH: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group
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But even if we follow INH's logic, does he just want me to call him a xenophobe or something? Like, is it okay to discriminate by religion then?
I'm not necessarily saying that, but calling him tribal when he doesn't like a religion is just a very ignorant thing to do. Saying he was a "xenophobe" or something else would be a more accurate thing to say. Racism is where you think a certain race (or multiple races) are inferior compared to everyone else, along with stereotyping them and discriminating them to. Racism doesn't have anything to do with religion.

If he were saying specific people were garbage, like Arabs or Syrians, then he would be a tribal. But in reality he was calling their ideology garbage and that 90% of the immigrants were garbage. Even though his percentage is highly amplified, he is not wrong that quite a few of immigrants that come in act like garbage due to the religion that they follow.

yeah guys he's only 90% tribal jeez cut him some slack

I'm not necessarily saying that, but calling him tribal when he doesn't like a religion is just a very ignorant thing to do.

But why?

Because calling a person who doesn't like a religion does not make sense. He'd be tribal if he were saying "blacks are bad" or whatever, because racism actually matches up with that. A religion is not a race. Calling people who hate or dislike a religion a tribal, is ignorant of them to do.

Ignorant meaning unlearned or untaught


Considering the islamic religion is predominant in a lot of non-western countries, I'd say you're wrong.