Are any people in America actually oppressed?

[rambo1220]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

why do people keep on linking this I get it, it exists, I'm not denying it.

All I'm saying is that a poor kid taking it upon him to educate himself so maybe he can get out of said ghetto/poor neighborhood is not far fetched, sure it's difficult given their circumstances, but it's not impossible.

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[IkeTheGeneric]

and a lot of people who have a lack of education have welfare, and therefor arent too poor

Welfare doesn't pay for tuition, nor does the existence of welfare negate the reality of poor access to education and public utilities.

[Nonnel]

why do people keep on linking this I get it, it exists, I'm not denying it.

All I'm saying is that a poor kid taking it upon him to educate himself so maybe he can get out of said ghetto/poor neighborhood is not far fetched, sure it's difficult given their circumstances, but it's not impossible.

Of course it is possible, but for the vast majority, that is not the case.

[crazies alt]

Welfare doesn't pay for tuition, nor does the existence of welfare negate the reality of poor access to education and public utilities.

you can say that, but even if welfare isn't quite enough to pay for those things, parents should still be able to get a well-enough paying job to get their children education, as it is #1 priority

[Jairo]

you must be living in a fantasy world, crazies alt

[mod-man]

you can say that, but even if welfare isn't quite enough to pay for those things, parents should still be able to get a well-enough paying job to get their children education, as it is #1 priority

unfortunately the world isnt as black and white as that

there are actually parents who dont give a stuff about themselves or their kids, if you didnt know

there are also parents who have to live with their best not being enough, if you didnt know

[IkeTheGeneric]

parents should still be able to get a well-enough paying job to get their children education

Not really, even with unemployment rates becoming so low recently, it's still incredibly hard to secure anything above entry level when you live in a low-income neighborhood, you have a stuffty credit score and you haven't been working for a few years. Coupled with that, with the lack of any substantial education for providers in low-income neighborhoods, there just aren't simply any jobs they're qualified for. You end up with both parents working multiple part time to full time entry-level positions, and they still barely make it by. This is why there was a big hubbub about adjusting minimum wage to inflation rates.

This alone creates a bad living environment with the stress, the lack of time parents have to spend with their child and no real outlet for kids to be kids in the inner cities. It leads to many, many bad things like drug abuse and crime.

[SWAT One]

you can say that, but even if welfare isn't quite enough to pay for those things, parents should still be able to get a well-enough paying job to get their children education, as it is #1 priority

If parents worked minimum wage jobs at a moderate full-time of 35hr/wk each, you would be earning well over basic living costs with a child to pay for as well, AND with some capacity to save money for the future.  Poverty, we must conclude, is due to frivolous spending, not "the system is keeping us down".  However, there can be something said about rent rates being too high, and about the manual rate increase.  Frankly, that is bullstuff and it's just there to pay someone else's mortgage.

[IkeTheGeneric]

If parents worked minimum wage jobs at a moderate full-time of 35hr/wk each, you would be earning well over basic living costs with a child to pay for as well, AND with some capacity to save money for the future.

You're clearly not factoring in the costs of living. Rent, utilities, mortgages, car payments, any sort of insurance payments, any accumulated debt that is inevitable. It adds up quickly and has absolutely nothing to do with frivolous spending.

It's easy to look down on people less fortunate than yourself when you have no responsibility for your own well being. You've proven you aren't taking all factors into mind and are quick to judge people based off of your personal conclusion. What does this mean?

[crazies alt]

there are actually parents who dont give a stuff about themselves or their kids, if you didnt know

what if i told you i did know, im just saying it should be #1 priority and those who dont take that as a priority are dumb because they werent educated

there are also parents who have to live with their best not being enough, if you didnt know

wtf thats dumb

[mod-man]

wtf thats dumb

you're right. but its some peoples reality. stop taking the luxurious life you live for granted

[Nonnel]

what if i told you i did know, im just saying it should be #1 priority and those who dont take that as a priority are dumb because they werent educated

yes... that's the problem

[Bisjac]

only the oppression they give themselves.

[crazies alt]

stop taking the luxurious life you live for granted

i dont but i think the fact that something like that is at all allowed in our government or whatever isnt ok

yes... that's the problem

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[SWAT One]

You're clearly not factoring in the costs of living. Rent, utilities, mortgages, car payments, any sort of insurance payments, any accumulated debt that is inevitable. It adds up quickly and has absolutely nothing to do with frivolous spending.

It's easy to look down on people less fortunate than yourself when you have no responsibility for your own well being. You've proven you aren't taking all factors into mind and are quick to judge people based off of your personal conclusion. What does this mean?

I pay rent, insurance, taxes, credit card payments, food, and utilities.  I do not live with family, I paid off my car, and I am preparing to make payments on student loans.  I work full-time and I drive myself hard.  I've taken special care to make sure that I am not in debt when I can prevent it.

It's easy to assume things about someone's character when you don't know anything about their lifestyle and the responsibilities they bear.  So yes, I am responsible for my own well-being.

My qualm was with those who chose not to be smart early on.  I knew since I was very young that saving money would be important, and I saved up $3,000 since I was little by the time I was 18.  I had insurance to pay on my first car, and had to pay that off, and when it ceased working I had to get to school by bus, which was a 2 hour trip each way.  And now I saved up and bought my next car in full.  You just gotta work, scrape, and save.  In my experience, which I acknowledge is extremely limited, it was only frivolous spending that accumulated debts and struggle.