[NEWS] A bunch of SJWs are going to march from Germany to Aleppo

[Perry]

it could be illegal for non nationals to be within certain syrian locations.
there are 3 sides fighting in syria, all 3 wont be to kind to unknowns, as they could be supporting any of the others.

Regardless of nationality, people who are labeled as humanitarian aid have invariable immunity to national laws. If they commit a crime then it has to be taken up with whoever authorized their status, and the trial can't actually take place on their soil.

If a group of civilians were to walk into Syria without any form of identification or authorization then the Syrian government has the right to apprehend them (not kill them). However, if there's an agreement made with like, say the UN or another global organization, then they can get diplomat status and be virtually immune to any sort of threat.

Russia hasn't proven very willing to work according to international norms and laws.
As for peace in Aleppo, "You make a desert and call it peace." is sadly likely to apply.

I'm with you that it'd be nice if this march were to work out, but the reality is that it more than likely will fail.  Either these people, be they normals or land whales, will tire out or run out of money and return to their day jobs or be turned back by force or turn into an unruly mob.  It would be nice if it were otherwise, but that's more than likely how it'll play out.  Cross our fingers though.

Well you can't just say to the schoolyard bully "i'm powerless against you so i'm going to let you continue bullying me" because then you're just allowing it to continue and securing your role as a coward.

I agree with the fact that they might fail, but if they get enough support they could actually get help from the german government or possibly the United Nations to help support their walk. Think of it like a legal protest and how there's always police around to defend the protest and make sure nothing happens to the protesters.

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Regardless of nationality, people who are labeled as humanitarian aid have invariable immunity to national laws.

Why would a country ever agree to it?

[Perry]

Why would a country ever agree to it?

Why would a progressive european country ever agree to support a movement that would potentially end the bombing and killing of a civilian population in a war-torn country?

Good question

Even if germany decides not to support it, the UN would probably be the one to step up and fund it, if it gains enough speed. Keep in mind that if the march does cause an effect and things are done about the issue in Syria, it could actually lead to an end to the conflict, and as a result, a halt of Syrian refugees into Europe and other places. There's literally so many benefits to this march.

[Conan]

Why would a country ever agree to it?

bad press and immediate sanctions against them from all developed nations.

since all sides of the fighting are depending pretty heavily on these countries for armaments and supplies, it is a bad idea for any of them to kill protestors. however the same cannot be said for individuals on the ground though; if this goes to stuff i bet it would be because of an individual or small group of individuals loving it up, rather than the side intentionally perpetrating such actions

in fact im willing to bet the way this will end up forgeted is soldiers pretending to be protestors and then once close to their enemy, loving them up. it would completely ruin any trust towards later real protestors showing up.

[Mr Unicode]

I get they wanna stop the war, and thats respectable, but marching into a war zone is not the way to do it. If you ran between a German and British trench in WW1 you would be peppered with bullets. The same thing applies here, this is just plain stupid.

[Magus]

I get they wanna stop the war, and thats respectable, but marching into a war zone is not the way to do it. If you ran between a German and British trench in WW1 you would be peppered with bullets. The same thing applies here, this is just plain stupid.

That's different, mostly because the Geneva Conventions were signed in 1949. This isn't a total war.

[Poliwhirl]

OP in 1930

[beachbum111111]

OP right after the US election

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[warlord]

Will this be the Children's Crusade of 1212 V 2.0?

[beachbum111111]

A march to stop the bombing on aleppo civilians is great, I don't know why y'all complaining. This is the type of stuff Ghandi or MLK would do, you know, the most famous SJWs in history.

Oh it's great for people who want less handicaps in the gene pool sure.

This is the type of stuff Ghandi or MLK would do, you know, the most famous SJWs in history.

Except the British and Americans actually give a stuff about human rights.

Russia is pretty much committing urbanicide and the killing of civilians really has to stop.

Yes they are certainly going to stop now because a bunch of braindead German civilians said so.

Actually, according to all international laws, it would. If Russia or the United States backed rebels were to injure any german civilians it'd officially be a NATO/UN issue, so both parties will avoid doing so.

If Russia is willing to attack peaceful civilians then they're pretty much an enemy of the world, and have to be stopped. They've already shown us that they're willing to bomb UN convoys delivering aid.

The rebels wont give a stuff, neither will the Syrian government.

Countries don't have the right to kill citizens of the European Nations unless they are violating a law and would normally be killed as a citizen of that country. These people who are marching are not criminals, and will not be violating any laws of Syria unless marching across a desert is worthy of a death sentence. If Russia decides to do an air strike they will be held accountable for war crimes as well as violation of international law with Germany.

Yeah because Syria, Russia and the Rebels (some of which have proven to be just as insane as Russia) have shown that they give a forget about international laws and human rights...

[ReddBoi]

what is an aleppo

[New Year]

Why would a progressive european country ever agree to support a movement that would potentially end the bombing and killing of a civilian population in a war-torn country?

Good question

Even if germany decides not to support it, the UN would probably be the one to step up and fund it, if it gains enough speed. Keep in mind that if the march does cause an effect and things are done about the issue in Syria, it could actually lead to an end to the conflict, and as a result, a halt of Syrian refugees into Europe and other places. There's literally so many benefits to this march.

bad press and immediate sanctions against them from all developed nations.

since all sides of the fighting are depending pretty heavily on these countries for armaments and supplies, it is a bad idea for any of them to kill protestors. however the same cannot be said for individuals on the ground though; if this goes to stuff i bet it would be because of an individual or small group of individuals loving it up, rather than the side intentionally perpetrating such actions

in fact im willing to bet the way this will end up forgeted is soldiers pretending to be protestors and then once close to their enemy, loving them up. it would completely ruin any trust towards later real protestors showing up.

I think you missed the point of the question. Why would assad agree to such a thing.
Besides, a nation won't get sanctions from all nations because they refused to ratify a treaty. At most they'd get flack from those countries on the opposite side of the world order.
I don't really think you have a realistic idea of international relations.

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[RedGajin]

gotta love how people in this thread are seriously so simple minded and dumb to think this is just a "hey we're going to walk into syria and everyones going to STOP" plan. no, this is meant to bring light to the syrian conflict and what is happening within the country. people are joking about aleppo in here, but theres people who actually have no idea what aleppo is, or that the syrian conflict is even still a thing. this is a march, these have been done for centuries. people didnt walk through selma thinking that just WALKING was going to solve any problems.

they say theyre working with military officials to ensure theyll have a (somewhat) safe passage to aleppo once they get to the border. now im no politician, but i dont think anyone is going to think massacring a group of European citizens will end well for them, so they should be alright. if not, theyre bringing even MORE light to the issue.
like yall are bringin up feminism and stuff like that in this thread when its not even relevant lol. these people are trying to help families getting murdered by corrupt individuals and you just take potshots at them for a completely irrelevant matter lmao

[Conan]

I think you missed the point of the question. Why would assad agree to such a thing.
Besides, a nation won't get sanctions from all nations because they refused to ratify a treaty. At most they'd get flack from those countries on the opposite side of the world order.
I don't really think you have a realistic idea of international relations.

i meant sanctions for killing civilians, not for not ratifying the treaty. that i really don't think will be impacted significantly by the march.

[Magus]

Will this be the Children's Crusade of 1212 V 2.0?

Oh god, hopefully not.