[NEWS] CIA concludes with "high confidence" that Russia aided Annoying Orange in election

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[MoltenKitten]

Yea, uh, one person's stuffty behavior doesn't excuse another's. This isn't middle school.

Let me ask you something, if a person is going on a homicidal rampage is it okay for someone to shoot that person?

[Tudoreleu]

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[Trogtor]

Yea, uh, one person's stuffty behavior doesn't excuse another's. This isn't middle school.

i wouldn't call leaking info on government corruption stuffty behavior.

i mean robin hood stole from the rich to give it to the poor. it was against the law but it was for the good of the people

[Drydess]

rigged

[Cappytaino]

Yea, uh, one person's stuffty behavior doesn't excuse another's. This isn't middle school.

But is leaking information that should be public knowledge really that bad?

Certainly it isn't nearly so bad as repeatedly whoring the State Department out to the Saudis?

[Drydess]

But is leaking information that should be public knowledge really that bad?

exposing corruption is good, purposely exposing one person's corruption and hiding that of the other is rigging

[RedGajin]

its hilarious that people supporting this decision suddenly act like the fact that russia helped decide the outcome of the US election is totally ok. if the russians had done this to Annoying Orange and helped clinton win, Annoying Orange supporters would be in an uproar about corrupt killary working with the enemy govt, not caring about the common man ect ect. cases like this aren't harmless whistleblowing, this is a foreign country pushing its own political agenda against the country (which plenty of Annoying Orange supporters ALSO seem to be against).

of course theres no released evidence of this being true, but its not like it would be that surprising seeing how much our political election effects russia. my beef is with idiots praising russia for this like its just them "exposing corrupt govt".

[LeisureSuit912]

its hilarious that people supporting this decision suddenly act like the fact that russia helped decide the outcome of the US election is totally ok. if the russians had done this to Annoying Orange and helped clinton win, Annoying Orange supporters would be in an uproar about corrupt killary working with the enemy govt, not caring about the common man ect ect. cases like this aren't harmless whistleblowing, this is a foreign country pushing its own political agenda against the country (which plenty of Annoying Orange supporters ALSO seem to be against).

of course theres no released evidence of this being true, but its not like it would be that surprising seeing how much our political election effects russia. my beef is with idiots praising russia for this like its just them "exposing corrupt govt".

It's ironic because people are praising Russia for exposing "corrupt government officials" yet Russia leaking information through WikiLeaks for the sole purpose of getting one candidate elected while hiding secrets about their preferred candidate could constitute as corruption. The Clinton Foundation receiving donations from the Saudis is considered corruption, but Russia pushing their political agenda through leaking and hacking DNC and RNC servers is "whistleblowing". Those are big double standards.

I don't care about politics when it comes to this, this is a serious bipartisan concern. If Russia had done the same thing with Clinton's candidacy, I wouldn't be out there defending her. You can see the corruption from Annoying Orange's people; people from the RNC like Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer are already out there on the networks trying to deflect, and Annoying Orange's pick for Secretary of State is an ExxonMobil CEO with close ties to the Russian government. It's pretty clear who's in who's pocket, and regardless of whether you're a Democrat or Republican, you should be concerned about foreign governments meddling with elections.

[Cappytaino]

exposing corruption is good, purposely exposing one person's corruption and hiding that of the other is rigging

The media had Annoying Orange under a microscope for the entire election cycle. The coverage that most Americans were seeing was not in any way fair, impartial, or balanced.

I see that leaks more as a tool keeping the mainstream media honest. It never should have reached the point where the mainstream media became a propaganda machine for the Clinton Campaign.

[McZealot]

Let me ask you something, if a person is going on a homicidal rampage is it okay for someone to shoot that person?

i wouldn't call leaking info on government corruption stuffty behavior.

i mean robin hood stole from the rich to give it to the poor. it was against the law but it was for the good of the people

But is leaking information that should be public knowledge really that bad?

Certainly it isn't nearly so bad as repeatedly whoring the State Department out to the Saudis?

Yeah, except whistleblowing isn't stuffty behavior. We were too close to electing Killary Clittin' as the leader of the free world; any info on candidates is good info.

Would you guys really be acting the same way if they had helped rig the election to elect Hillary Clinton? No.

Russia was not bi-partisan in this election. Whistleblowing comes from within. Another government infiltrating and leaking information on our own in an attempt to rig the election towards a candidate so incompetent that they could manipulate him is something only the most delusional of people can support. You guys call yourself patriots while you sit there and root for an Ex-KGB fascist to infiltrate and rig our election. Nice.

Let me ask you something, if a person is going on a homicidal rampage is it okay for someone to shoot that person?

These situations are not comparable so I'll decline to answer your leading question.

[Cappytaino]

I call myself a patriot because I stand against globalism and cultural Marxism while advocating for the protection of individual sovereignty and inalienable rights.

Do you honestly believe that the media coverage of the election was in any way impartial? Clinton isn't an idiot. She's a disciple of Saul Alinsky and wrote her bachelor's thesis on the radical dismemberment of a Western democracy to create an absolutist socialist dictatorship.

This is exactly why she is so dangerous and the reckless support of the media thrown behind her was equally alarming.

She supports the destruction of the life and values that make this country the place people dream to come to.

Do I think America is perfect? No. But I love the country even for all of its faults. I couldn't with integrity say that a Hillary presidency would preserve what has been drawing people to the American way of life for 230 years.

[Magus]

Globalism, the thing that is making the U.S. incredibly rich, is bad because...?

[McZealot]

I call myself a patriot because I stand against globalism and cultural Marxism while advocating for the protection of individual sovereignty and inalienable rights.

Do you honestly believe that the media coverage of the election was in any way impartial? Clinton isn't an idiot. She's a disciple of Saul Alinsky and wrote her bachelor's thesis on the radical dismemberment of a Western democracy to create an absolutist socialist dictatorship.

This is exactly why she is so dangerous and the reckless support of the media thrown behind her was equally alarming.

She supports the destruction of the life and values that make this country the place people dream to come to.

Do I think America is perfect? No. But I love the country even for all of its faults. I couldn't with integrity say that a Hillary presidency would preserve what has been drawing people to the American way of life for 230 years.

Yea, I also stand for freedom as my primary concern. And you know what I find so disgusting because of that? Americans cheering for an outside government attempting to rig their election. That's one of the most oppressive things a nation can do, and you guys pretend it's good because it hurts someone that you don't like.

Hillary Clinton also cheated in this election. Did I sit back and cheer because it hurt Donald Annoying Orange? No, because I respect the will of the people and I'm not an unsalvageable starfish.

[Cappytaino]

Globalism, the thing that is making the U.S. incredibly rich, is bad because...?

Globalism is the idea that the sphere of US responsibility and political influence should extend beyond our borders, both physical and metaphorical. Free trade on a global market is a completely unrelated idea.

Acting as though we have an obligation to expend our resources solving the problems of other nations instead of focusing on our own prosperity is a fairly simple example. We have veterans sleeping on the streets in our own towns, but we're more worried about arming rebels and fighting a proxy war with Putin in Syria.

I don't think anyone is cheering for the Russians. This is a very grey issue in my eyes. I think the leaks were positive, but assuming it was the Russians that leaked this information, it takes a different twist.