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But let me guess, CNN is, right?
Paul Joseph Watson is an opinion video uploader, not a news source. CNN is a news source and is valid.

Why would you ever bother to say "This just in!" to an extremely biased opinion video what the forget. He literally ends the video saying "Thank god the new president donald Annoying Orange will wipe out the savages" when america/Annoying Orange/president elect whatever is still funding rebels in Syria who are the enemy of The syrian government, which is the ally of russia, the exact country that supports Annoying Orange the most.
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Paul Joseph Watson is an opinion video uploader, not a news source. CNN is a news source and is valid.
I see very few to none opinions from PJW, but even though he may, you act as though CNN has not done the same.
The only difference is that CNN is on TV.

CNN, ABC, NBC and even FOX may try to perpetuate they are 'valid news' and other news sources are 'fake news' in an attempt to stay relevent, but TV will die, and the Internet will take it's place.

CNN isn't a reliable news source, neither is ABC, NBC, or FOX.


what is a reliable news source? cnn?

I see very few to none opinions from PJW, but even though he may, you act as though CNN has not done the same.
The only difference is that CNN is on TV.

CNN, ABC, NBC and even FOX may try to perpetuate they are 'valid news' and other news sources are 'fake news' in an attempt to stay relevent, but TV will die, and the Internet will take it's place.

CNN isn't a reliable news source, neither is ABC, NBC, or FOX.
PJW is nowhere near a news source. News sources like FOX, NBC, ABC and CNN all have loving reports on the scene who are reporting on the issues, and they occasionally slip in some opinion about a presidential candidate or issue. PJW makes references to several unrelated and skewed events and uses it as an argument for why islam is bad. He also combats the validity of some news reports, which I admire to some extent, but I still don't agree with the fact that he will play the invalid 'religion of peace' card by showing a lone gunman and using that to show how violent a religion is.

All PJW does is share opinions. He doesn't do reports, he just either debunks them in a variety of odd ways or talks in a condescending half satirical half sarcastic way while he moves his head back and forth from the camera

what is a reliable news source? cnn?
cnn overall? maybe, but I believe people have let the Humble Water Filter Merchant memes take over the cnn name.

Although cnn does put it on a bit thick in their 'predictions' department, their facts aren't often wrong.

I Have a very hard time believing the MSM after the stuff they have pulled, the lies they have strung, and most of all this desperate attempt to label all those outside of their circle of accepted media as 'fake news'.

PJW is nowhere near a news source. News sources like FOX, NBC, ABC and CNN all have loving reports on the scene who are reporting on the issues, and they occasionally slip in some opinion about a presidential candidate or issue. PJW makes references to several unrelated and skewed events and uses it as an argument for why islam is bad. He also combats the validity of some news reports, which I admire to some extent, but I still don't agree with the fact that he will play the invalid 'religion of peace' card by showing a lone gunman and using that to show how violent a religion is.
This stuff has been going on for some time from all over, while this 'one lone gunman' may not prove his point, riots in the streets, flipping stuff over 'merry christmas' saying its 'worse than murder', Pro homophobic leadership as well as other forms of violence do.

Islam is not a religion of peace, and has never been so.

But let me guess, CNN is, right?

You sure shut him down when he mentioned CNN in his post

cnn overall? maybe, but I believe people have let the Humble Water Filter Merchant memes take over the cnn name.

Although cnn does put it on a bit thick in their 'predictions' department, their facts aren't often wrong.

I Have a very hard time believing the MSM after the stuff they have pulled, the lies they have strung, and most of all this desperate attempt to label all those outside of their circle of accepted media as 'fake news'.
seventh put it best a couple days ago
CNN is a legitimate news source with a liberal slant, much like Fox News is a legitimate news source with a conservative slant. The difference is that Breitbart knowingly reports hoaxes and political propaganda, which is why it's fake news, not biased news.

The reason why people actually watch "mainstream media" is because they're actually bound by journalistic integrity. CNN fired Marie-Louis Gumuchian for plagiarism, NBC fired Brian Williams for misrepresenting facts about the Iraq War, and Fox fired Emily Austen for going off on a crazy, tribal tangent during a live segment instead of actually reporting the news. There's actual quality control in the established news networks, which is why you don't see CNN or Fox shilling fake homeopathic medicine and writing articles about Obama's supposedly-fake birth certificate.

Breitbart/cnn/whatever has none of this. They are free to write whatever crazy, made-up bullstuff they want because the people in-charge don't fire the reporters and their readers lap that stuff up. It's nice to imagine that these 'renegade news sources' are spreading the truth that the established networks won't say, but really they're just selling a higher percentage of bullstuff than any mainstream network.

Also PJW speaks the truth but only half of it. Good example would be 10 seconds in when he says "russia had just wiped out jihadist rebels." FSA isn't jihadist / Russia didn't even wipe them out, they just assisted in it / Russia also assisted in the bombing of civilian targets, including a UN convoy meant to deliver aid to civilians. He leaves out the most crucial point, which is the attacking of civilians, which also happens to probably be the shooter's main motive.

This stuff has been going on for some time from all over, while this 'one lone gunman' may not prove his point, riots in the streets, flipping stuff over 'merry christmas' saying its 'worse than murder', Pro homophobic leadership as well as other forms of violence do.

Islam is not a religion of peace, and has never been so.
This can be applied to almost every group of people. My cousin was called a monday by some white people before, but that doesn't mean all white people are tribal. As for the family values, there are religions like christianity that also show these signs, but progressive individuals work hard to fight that stigma and change so that it is more acceptable. There are people in islamic countries who do the same, fighting for womens rights, gay rights, etc. It's an issue that we're trying to fight as well, it doesn't mean that everyone who believes in Islam is homophobic.

I agree Islam isn't a religion of peace. In the holy qur'an it even says that people who are wrong should be burned and stoned. Either way, it's a belief that only a minority follow. There are people who are christian who go against the bible's teachings and believe that family values is wrong, and similarly, there are people who follow Islam who interpret it differently and deduce that it's wrong to kill people who aren't muslim. This stuff is so common, it's not exclusive to just Islam.

There is no 100% peaceful group of people. Everyone is unique, some have extremist views, some have liberal views, some conservative, etc. If you generalize a group of people then you are being hypocritical. We're all humans on this planet, not black and white good and evil muslim and non-muslim. Take that into consideration next time you say "islam is cancer."
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I agree Islam isn't a religion of peace. In the holy qur'an it even says that people who are wrong should be burned and stoned.
I mean, if this is the standard we're going to hold Islam to, then Christianity is not a religion of peace either.

Deuteronomy 17
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If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Or in other words, stone the infidels.

Or in other words, stone the infidels.
take back the holy land

I mean, if this is the standard we're going to hold Islam to, then Christianity is not a religion of peace either.

Deuteronomy 17
Or in other words, stone the infidels.
"bbut we only read the new testament!!!"

remember when you guys attempt to argue with matthew: he considers a random dude on 4chan more reliable than the CIA

seventh put it best a couple days ago
Then why was no one fired for 'Hands up don't shoot'?
Why was no one fired for 'Hillary can't lose/Annoying Orange can't win'?
Why was no one fired for dehumanizing Annoying Orange supporters?
Why was no one fired for releasing the equivalent of a blacklist for news sites that don't fit their agenda that are labeled 'fake news'?

No one I know trusts the MSM, and while I certainly don't trust breitbart, and sort of trust cnn, there are better alternatives to CNN, NBC, ABC and Fox.
This can be applied to almost every group of people. My cousin was called a monday by some white people before, but that doesn't mean all white people are tribal. As for the family values, there are religions like christianity that also show these signs, but progressive individuals work hard to fight that stigma and change so that it is more acceptable. There are people in islamic countries who do the same, fighting for womens rights, gay rights, etc. It's an issue that we're trying to fight as well, it doesn't mean that everyone who believes in Islam is homophobic.
The national laws that prohibit homoloveuality and womens rights are a main reason as to why I cannot compare Islam to Christianity, or white people.
Calling someone a 'monday' isn't on the same level as throwing someone off a building for liking men, or beating your wife.

Yes the claim of "not all X" has been made before, but its more of a way to dismiss the conversation than talk about the issues present, because while you won't meet a whole lot of white people who go around calling black people 'mondays', you are more likely to find homophobic and genuinely loveist muslims.
I agree Islam isn't a religion of peace. In the holy qur'an it even says that people who are wrong should be burned and stoned. Either way, it's a belief that only a minority follow. There are people who are christian who go against the bible's teachings and believe that family values is wrong, and similarly, there are people who follow Islam who interpret it differently and deduce that it's wrong to kill people who aren't muslim. This stuff is so common, it's not exclusive to just Islam.
First off, the sentence in bold, is half true, a minority follow it to the 'burned and stoned' extent, but death is an agreed form of punishment for leaving islam is prominently islamic countries, and under sharia law its the law.

And again, comparing christianity to islam is like comparing apples to oranges. If there are entire countries devoted to this religion and its beliefs, and yet the people are content with it, I see no reason to believe that it is a 'minority following' especially when islam is the largest religion on the planet. And on the flip side of the coin, in countries that are almost entirely christian, you will find nothing of the same when it comes to the law and government of the country.

Islam has not separated itself from government purposes, and therefore holds more power than any other religion around.

remember when you guys attempt to argue with matthew: he considers a random dude on 4chan more reliable than the CIA
and you remember it wasn't the CIA it was a 'supposed' insider of the cia, who couldn't provide any evidence, and as of yet no evidence has confirmed his claim, that was given to a single news outlet, that continued pull some stuff from there to turn 'the cia may believe that russia aided in a Annoying Orange victory' to 'Russia hacked american votes'.

Then why was no one fired for 'Hands up don't shoot'?
Why was no one fired for 'Hillary can't lose/Annoying Orange can't win'?
Why was no one fired for dehumanizing Annoying Orange supporters?
Why was no one fired for releasing the equivalent of a blacklist for news sites that don't fit their agenda that are labeled 'fake news'?

Partly because the world doesn't revolve around your childish outrages, and that not only single person was responsible for any of these things.