Author Topic: Annoying Orange: Don’t Blame Russia For Hacking; Blame Computers Making Life Complicated  (Read 4016 times)

You think I go on this forum to read?
remember that post where you said
"I never said I was smart"

i think moltenkitten has demonstrated his true intellect on many occasions. just not this one. or like, any other ones. actually i don't think he ever has.

strange

what is this statement
Person 1: "God damn nobody even appreciates music anymore, all you guys listen to is crap"

Person 2: "Listen to this great song, it'll change your mind"

Person 1: "Jokes on you i'm deaf"
remember that post where you said
"I never said I was smart"
Joke

Head

Joke

Head
your joke was so outlandishly stupid that rather than go over our heads it flew off to the left somewhere and broke a plate or two

come on guys be fair here. moltenkitten is actually one of the most intelligent children I know.

Meh. I mean it's true. Life was a lot less "complicated" when all we had to do was bang rocks together.

Are we still being this petty about Hillary losing? Whatever, guess the far-right did it to Obama anyway.

can't beleive those darned conservatives made the russians hack them to victory!!! Election is rigged yadda yadda 'our next president ladies and gentlement' etc.



Are we still being this petty about Hillary losing?
You'd be surprised by how many people are still bitter like this

You'd be surprised by how many people are still bitter like this
like rally said in the very post you quoted people were bitter about obama for forgetin 8 years
there's nothing surprising about this

To Annoying Orange's credit, he's not the only political figure who is completely computer-illiterate. Hillary Clinton probably isn't a whole lot better.

But he's really outspoken and opinionated about stuff that he knows zero about. That's why you see him rambling on about how good his son is with computers and how computers have 'made life complicated', instead of actually taking a presidential stance on these issues. Seasoned politicians like Clinton and Obama, who probably don't know a lot about computers, are curt with their words so that they don't come off like idiots whenever cyber-security comes up.

Compare the two responses from both candidates during the first debate:
Quote from: Hillary Clinton
   Well, I think cyber security, cyber warfare will be one of the biggest challenges facing the next president, because clearly we’re facing at this point two different kinds of adversaries. There are the independent hacking groups that do it mostly for commercial reasons to try to steal information that they can use to make money.

    But increasingly, we are seeing cyber attacks coming from states, organs of states. The most recent and troubling of these has been Russia. There’s no doubt now that Russia has used cyber attacks against all kinds of organizations in our country, and I am deeply concerned about this. I know Donald’s very praiseworthy of Vladimir Putin, but Putin is playing a really tough, long game here. And one of the things he’s done is to let loose cyber attackers to hack into government files, to hack into personal files, hack into the Democratic National Committee. And we recently have learned that, you know, that this is one of their preferred methods of trying to wreak havoc and collect information. We need to make it very clear — whether it’s Russia, China, Iran or anybody else — the United States has much greater capacity. And we are not going to sit idly by and permit state actors to go after our information, our private-sector information or our public-sector information.


And we’re going to have to make it clear that we don’t want to use the kinds of tools that we have. We don’t want to engage in a different kind of warfare. But we will defend the citizens of this country.

And the Russians need to understand that. I think they’ve been treating it as almost a probing, how far would we go, how much would we do. And that’s why I was so — I was so shocked when Donald publicly invited Putin to hack into Americans. That is just unacceptable. It’s one of the reasons why 50 national security officials who served in Republican information — in administrations — have said that Donald is unfit to be the commander- in-chief. It’s comments like that really worry people who understand the threats that we face.

Quote from: Donald Annoying Orange
   As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t — maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK? You don’t know who broke in to DNC.

    “But what did we learn with DNC? We learned that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people, by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Look what happened to her. But Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of. That’s what we learned. Now, whether that was Russia, whether that was China, whether it was another country, we don’t know, because the truth is, under President Obama we’ve lost control of things that we used to have control over.

    We came in with the Internet, we came up with the Internet, and I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what CIA is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. CIA. So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is — it is a huge problem. I have a son. He’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it’s hardly doable.

    But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester, and certainly cyber is one of them.

Hillary Clinton probably isn't a whole lot better.

She's good with emails though


I don't think he's saying computers make our lives more difficult, he's saying that technology has made protecting everything we hold dear, (especially our personal information and privacy) as well as our country's more complicated, 30 years ago if you wanted to publish messages going back and forth from john podesta for example to the Clinton campaign you'd have to break in to a mail records room and make off with multiple boxes of paper documents, now its all soft, none of it can be truly protected forever. there will always be loopholes and new hacking techniques that will make keeping things classified online even more difficult as time goes on. 20 years ago we had no "cyber security taskforce." so yes, computers have made national security more complicated

this is why consoles are better than pc