[NEWS] Feminists chant Allahu Akbar.

[Red Spy]

i don't think the fact that lots of muslims are in a particular place necessarily makes them a better candidate to provide help anyways

It would help stop a massive culture clash

are you saying it's just hard to get meaningful information on individual refugees?

Yeah p much

[Ad Bot]

[Cappytaino]

loving both feminism and islam is the prime example of leftist doublethink today.

Let's get all riled up about women's rights while at the same time praising an ass-backwards religion that literally treats women like property.

if most practitioners of Islam were white, leftists would hate it

but they're brown so it's all okay

[beachbum111111]

loving both feminism and islam is the prime example of leftist doublethink today.

Let's get all riled up about women's rights while at the same time praising an ass-backwards religion that literally treats women like property.

if most practitioners of Islam were white, leftists would hate it

but they're brown so it's all okay

#notallmuslims

[Red Spy]

Muslims and feminists should be the best of friends since they both hate the west so much

[SeventhSandwich]

loving both feminism and islam is the prime example of leftist doublethink today.

I don't think liberals profess to 'loving Islam'. The idea is that we're the political ideology that sticks up for oppressed minorities. It doesn't mean we subscribe to their religious doctrine.

We'll probably see a women's liberation movement happen internally in Islam sometime in our lifetimes.

[beachbum111111]

I don't think liberals profess to 'loving Islam'. The idea is that we're the political ideology that sticks up for oppressed minorities. It doesn't mean we subscribe to their religious doctrine.

It's like watching Lemmings jump off a cliff

We'll probably see a women's liberation movement happen internally in Islam sometime in our lifetimes.

Were probably going to see alot of dead women for disobeying

[SeventhSandwich]

Were probably going to see alot of dead women for disobeying

Perhaps, but how does discriminating against Muslims help to raise the status of Muslim women? Cappytaino seems to be saying that there's no way to address women's issues in Islam besides completely resenting them as a religious group.

[beachbum111111]

Perhaps, but how does discriminating against Muslims help to raise the status of Muslim women? Cappytaino seems to be saying that there's no way to address women's issues in Islam besides completely resenting them as a religious group.

I'm not making some political statement on how your wrong I'm just saying that it's going to be tough.

[SeventhSandwich]

I'm not making some political statement on how your wrong I'm just saying that it's going to be tough.

I agree that it'll be tough, and it'll definitely take many decades. I'm not an expert on women's rights movements, but my guess is that women's issues will start to improve in Muslim-majority nations when those countries become more stable/prosperous/etc.

I messed around with the Gapminder graphing tool and looked at GDP per capita versus # of years of schooling among women aged 25+, and there's a very nice positive correlation between the two.

https://www.gapminder.org/tools/#_state_time_value=2009;&marker_axis_slash__y_which=mean_slash__years_slash__in_slash__school_slash__women_slash__25_slash__years_slash__and_slash__older&domainMin:null&domainMax:null&zoomedMin:null&zoomedMax:null;;;&chart-type=bubbles

It's probably not the only factor though. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are two really strong outliers on the graph. Those countries also have an obscene inequality in wealth, so that might also be another factor to look at.

[beachbum111111]

I agree that it'll be tough, and it'll definitely take many decades. I'm not an expert on women's rights movements, but my guess is that women's issues will start to improve in Muslim-majority nations when those countries become more stable/prosperous/etc.

I messed around with the Gapminder graphing tool and looked at GDP per capita versus # of years of schooling among women aged 25+, and there's a very nice positive correlation between the two.

https://www.gapminder.org/tools/#_state_time_value=2009;&marker_axis_slash__y_which=mean_slash__years_slash__in_slash__school_slash__women_slash__25_slash__years_slash__and_slash__older&domainMin:null&domainMax:null&zoomedMin:null&zoomedMax:null;;;&chart-type=bubbles

It's probably not the only factor though. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are two really strong outliers on the graph. Those countries also have an obscene inequality in wealth, so that might also be another factor to look at.

But Iran was very secular and progressive...

...Then they became an Islamic republic

[SeventhSandwich]

But Iran was very secular and progressive...

...Then they became an Islamic republic

Because we deposed Iran's democratically elected leader and installed a dictator in order to prevent Iran from nationalizing their oil industry.

[Master Matthew²]

Because we deposed Iran's democratically elected leader and installed a dictator in order to prevent Iran from nationalizing their oil industry.

And now Russia and the US will join forces to take over the world the middle east.

[Tactical Nuke]

he said some population statistics were from pew

when calculating how many people were radicalized in indonesia he used a random ass poll he found from god knows where which basically says 50% of muslims are radical. he applies this 50% to the /entirety/ of a country (indonesia) and asserts 143 million people are radicalized which is hilariously wrong why would anyone take some random ass poll and apply it to an entire country's muslim population. that's inaccurate as forget

he does this to some other countries as well, claiming that based on another random ass poll (again no source for this) that many more muslims are radical.

as far as i can tell this entire video is him doing this bullstuff over and over and over and over again. none of this stuff has any sources the only source mentioned in the video is a pew statistic for a country's muslim population

and since i watched your video you can read the article i found here
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/05/ben-shapiro/shapiro-says-majority-muslims-are-radicals/
it restates everything i just said and i cannot loving believe i just only found it at the end of writing this bullstuff i could've just linked this instead of actually putting effort into my argument

politifact lost all credibility a while ago, but yeah, let me take a look at that
oh wait
they gimp the statistics a lot but the number is still huge: almost one in five
that and they claim sharia law is not radical, which it clearly loving is
all I see is more pandering from the left and "#NotAllMuslims"

if you want sources, here is a compendium of Muslim opinion polls from places Ben Shapiro listed, all of them with sources - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

here are the polls he sources in his video - http://www.pewresearch.org/topics/muslims-and-islam/2011/

and let's say he's totally wrong
that still doesn't change the fact that Muhammad was a child enthusiast by modern standards and preached death to infidels as a moral thing for all parties involved

[SeventhSandwich]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

yep definitely no reason why that source would cast the data in a misleading way

[Nonnel]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-CIA/

here's a more recent pew study