Author Topic: [NEWS] President Annoying Orange's travel ban still halted by federal court  (Read 6763 times)

That has nothing to do with the ban's legality.

Legal or not, it was an incredibly stupid executive order that ended up with us just wasting our time and money with no ends to justify the means. I'm guessing this is gonna be a theme with D. Annoying Orange.

The court wouldn't be cleared out because it ruled unfavorably, the court should be cleared because it continues to interject its personal political beliefs into what is supposed to be a sterile unfeeling to the letter inactment of the law.
and like i said, the idea of "political bias" in the judiciary is murky. if a decision is made with a clearly outlined legal basis, then the line where something becomes politically motivated is entirely arbitrary. if the court cites public opinion, statistics, etc. in its majority opinion as substance, then that is politics and policy making. if they cite legal precedent (or a lack thereof), acts of congress, the constitution, treaties, etc. then that is a judicial interpretation of law. it is the job of the courts to decide which interpretation is valid, not the executive, and not the legislature.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 02:41:51 PM by otto-san »

I wonder how much cash Saudi paid the judges. Look like they're finally getting an ROI on their 'donation' to Clinton

they must've paid tons to Annoying Orange considering he didn't ban them even though they're the largest exporter of islamic terrorists to the US

The 9th circuit made a political decision not a judicial decision. They're supposed to uphold the law not bend it to fit their political agenda. Circuit should be redone and the judges should be removed from bench.

lmao keep the tears coming. One of the judges was a conservative appointed by Bush, and even he had the brains to vote against this stupid and useless travel ban.

All Muslims are either bombers or potential bombers, they all should be banned even though it is untrue

they must've paid tons to Annoying Orange considering he didn't ban them even though they're the largest exporter of islamic terrorists to the US

Obama didn't put restrictions on Saudi in 2015 either, because they don't come from Saudi. There are no asylum seekers in Saudi because they don't want them. Saudi filters it's terrorist agents through Syria and then sends them to western nations as 'refugees'

It's entirely legal. The amendment of 65 says nothing about the presidents ability to close borders due to national security concerns. This is the hyper liberal west coast judicial circuit making a play based on political agenda. They've done this before and they will continue to do it. Need to be removed from bench.

Even if that were the case, we have a court system that deals with the extreme judges and their rulings should they be disputable. If the ruling is questionable, appeal it to a higher court. If that's questionable, appeal it to yet another higher court. If those higher courts don't have any issues with it, you're SOL.

The court wouldn't be cleared out because it ruled unfavorably, the court should be cleared because it continues to interject its personal political beliefs into what is supposed to be a sterile unfeeling to the letter inactment of the law.

Actually that's exactly what judges should do. They're elected or appointed based on their interpretations of the law and their constituency being in favor of their reading and understanding of it. This happens from both sides, and it's why the supreme court is such a big deal. This works with the system of appeals to balance out anything too extreme, but it's the intention of how the system is set up.

The court system isn't some arbitrary floating body of starfishs that you disagree with, judges are people elected or appointed on faith from their constituency. While they're not supposed to inject their own politics into rulings, two judges can interpret things in very different ways, which is why any legal document is so specific.

All Muslims are either bombers or potential bombers, they all should be banned even though it is untrue
what

What are you trying to address in this post, none of us think or posted anything like this lolwtf

they must've paid tons to Annoying Orange considering he didn't ban them even though they're the largest exporter of islamic terrorists to the US

This is my one beef with the ban. Saudi Arabi should have topped the list.

and like i said, the idea of "political bias" in the judiciary is murky. if a decision is made with a clearly outlined legal basis, then the line where something becomes politically motivated is entirely arbitrary. if the court cites public opinion, statistics, etc. in its majority opinion as substance, then that is politics and policy making. if they cite legal precedent (or a lack thereof), acts of congress, the constitution, treaties, etc. then that is a judicial interpretation of law. it is the job of the courts to decide which interpretation is valid, not the executive, and not the legislature.

Thus lies the issue with our current checks and balance system. One of the checks and balances itself has no check nor balance. Who's watching the watchers and all that.

lmao keep the tears coming. One of the judges was a conservative appointed by Bush, and even he had the brains to vote against this stupid and useless travel ban.

Establishment interference crosses the political border. Are you ever going to add something intelligent to any discussion you chime into?

Even if that were the case, we have a court system that deals with the extreme judges and their rulings should they be disputable. If the ruling is questionable, appeal it to a higher court. If that's questionable, appeal it to yet another higher court. If those higher courts don't have any issues with it, you're SOL.

Actually that's exactly what judges should do. They're elected or appointed based on their interpretations of the law and their constituency being in favor of their reading and understanding of it. This happens from both sides, and it's why the supreme court is such a big deal. This works with the system of appeals to balance out anything too extreme, but it's the intention of how the system is set up.

The court system isn't some arbitrary floating body of starfishs that you disagree with, judges are people elected or appointed on faith from their constituency. While they're not supposed to inject their own politics and bend readings, two judges can interpret things in very different ways, which is why any legal document is so specific.

Which is what's going on. My beef is the continued interference and bias coming from the 9th circuit. This is a decades long issue.

Obama didn't put restrictions on Saudi in 2015 either, because they don't come from Saudi. There are no asylum seekers in Saudi because they don't want them. Saudi filters it's terrorist agents through Syria and then sends them to western nations as 'refugees'
zero syrian refugees have committed terror attacks in the US

what

What are you trying to address in this post, none of us think or posted anything like this lolwtf
Lord Tony literally posted something like it and it's clear he believes it.

zero syrian refugees have committed terror attacks in the US

Lmfao nice fake news bro. I guess they were all mentally ill and just screaming Allah Akbar because they liked the way it sounds

Lmfao nice fake news bro. I guess they were all mentally ill and just screaming Allah Akbar because they liked the way it sounds
Wasn't that proven to mean "oh my god"

Wasn't that proven to mean "oh my god"

It's loosely "God is great(er)" and is used both as a rallying cry and in times of stress or danger.