Author Topic: orthodox christianity on LGBTQ+?  (Read 6760 times)

hey guys a little bit of a weird question uh i dont know much about orthodox christianity or religion so ill just uh cut right to the chase
my grandfather was a well-known scientist working on solar power, however later in his life he moved away from his family (us) and apparently CONVERTED to the orthodox church. to the point where he is literally living in a monastery somewhere in Romania.
we still have email contact but uh he saw my gmail name which has my female name and now he's asking questions in a very odd tone and he wants a one on one conversation with me like he wants to fly like over here and talk to me. and im not sure if i should like just come out of the closet to him and just take whatever the 1 on 1 will be, or if i should just not do that and just move on i guess.

tldr is this religion known to be against lgbtq+ my grandfather is suddenly into this religion very much and im kind of scared

Well each Christian has different viewpoints but I found this:
"This being said, however, we must stress that persons with a homoloveual orientation are to be cared for with the same mercy and love that is bestowed by our Lord Jesus Christ upon all of humanity. All persons are called by God to grow spiritually and morally toward holiness."

I'd just tell him honestly, if he responds negatively you shouldn't be worried.

this is a very tough thing. i can't personally speak for orthodox christianity. tell him about it but regardless how he reacts I'd still keep it under the down low if you're ever around him. since he's moved away i guess that won't be too much of a problem

i think the rule is that it's ok to be gay and be attracted to the same love it's just

not ok to have love with them

I'll say this from personal experience

i live in an entirely christan family. both of my parents don't like the idea of homoloveuality, my dad doesn't care about it nearly as much as my mom does. let's just say she really despises it. anyways, my sister does have a couple of lesbian friends, some of these friends are childhood friends too that my mom knows a lot. even though my mom has some pretty strong hatred for homoloveuality, she is the most kind and welcoming woman in this earth that i can think of, and homoloveual or not, she treats everyone the same.

a lot of christians let their hate get to them and this is where problems begin.

i think the rule is that it's ok to be gay and be attracted to the same love it's just

not ok to have love with them
that's another thing. outright showing gay affectionate unfortunately shows spite towards christians and this is where the hatred stirs up. that's why i say to keep it on the down low around him

Pretty much all major religions (or at least the three Abrahamic religions) are super anti-lgbt
If you look at the history of LGBT rights movements, religion has been pretty much the only force driving against it

That said, although the group may feel one way, no one can predict what one individual person's stance or motives are. You're description of what he's doing is pretty vague so we don't really know much.
Maybe he feels like you've changed a lot and just needs to get to know you? What "tone" are his "questions in an odd tone"? Hateful? Curious? Confused?

why do you care what he thinks. just ignore him. that's what I'd do if any of my family gave me a hard time
outright showing gay affectionate unfortunately shows spite towards christians
haha, no

mmm I'd say there's no harm in letting your grandpops talk to you, it could be humiliating and a waste of time, but it might make him feel like he's doing something good. If he's negative just ignore everything. Live your life the way you want to.

it could be humiliating and a waste of time, but it might make him feel like he's doing something good
that's not a very equivalent exchange. you should never humiliate yourself*, and certainly not for the sake of allowing someone else to feel good about doing something bad

*unless it's a special interest thing I guess but that's obviously not the case

haha, no
Of course not, but plenty of religious people seem to think it is
See: all the people citing "muh religious freedom" as a reason against same-love marriage

that's not a very equivalent exchange. you should never humiliate yourself*, and certainly not for the sake of allowing someone else to feel good about doing something bad

*unless it's a special interest thing I guess but that's obviously not the case
I definitely agree. Frankly if OP doesn't want to entertain an offensive anti-gay lecture, that's a-ok. Just ignore grandpops.
My line of thinking is, if op goes into this knowing what to expect and simply ignores whatever talk follows, he won't get his feelings hurt and his grandpa walks away feeling like he did some good. But, it's also perfectly reasonable to just avoid a discussion altogether. Your grandpa has no right to tell you how to live your life (assuming that's what he wants to discuss after all).

*unless it's a special interest thing I guess but that's obviously not the case
as far as you know

you could maybe just tell him over email and save him a trip if he thinks he's going to fly over to ""save you""

*unless it's a special interest thing I guess but that's obviously not the case
there are a lot of special interestes that boil down to "don't do this. unless it's a special interest thing. then it's okay."

flying just to talk about homo stuff to you? lolwat
live your life like you want, nothing more

Keep things on the down low and if the question arrises, do it with the upmost carefulness