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Will there be a Media War, and if so, Who will win?

There will be no Media War
There will be a Media War, and the Mainstream Media will win
There will be a Media War, and the Youtubers will win

Author Topic: [Debate] The Media Wars - PewDiePie the national socialist? or Mainstream Media the national socialist?  (Read 2532 times)

The Media Wars - PewDiePie the national socialist? or Mainstream Media the national socialist?

   This speculative subject has been becoming more and more discussed throughout social media and other platforms.This would of course be the fact that people are noticing the signs of a media war and I'm inclined to agree with this. Constantly, we are seeing the mainstream media single out YouTubers and attack them or make them their target, the most recent "victim" being PewDiePie. Through these actions they appear to be showing the signs of a dying platform striking out for help by attacking larger and farther reaching platforms in the hopes of expanding their own. But in doing this, they draw the attention toward their "victim" and away from themselves, which will certainly result in backlash from both sides, until eventually, much like Armoured Skeptic said, we will be at another GamerGate. Unlike what Armoured Skeptic said though, I believe this will be a far longer lasting, and more obvious battle than that of GamerGate. GamerGate was the catalyst that eventually lead to the downfall of Social Justice in the previous year, but what Armoured Skeptic has coined to be one day called "YoutubeGate" will not just be a mere catalyst in a bigger picture. YoutubeGate will become the big picture as the Media war would go out of control and eventually, I believe, the mainstream media will dig themselves into a FoxNews-like age lock. FoxNews, due to their many scandals against Gamers (see the trend?) eventually spiraled out of control and very few to this day Trust FoxNews, and those who Do are growing older, because the age group that would have watched them, moved on. I foresee this being the case with almost all Mainstream Media Outlets who wish to follow in the path of FoxNews or WallStreet Journal.

   But I can't be the only one who has something to say, so /discuss.

Heavly Discussed here (Armoured Skeptic):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q6-KXBijWQ
Lightly discussed throughout this video (Sargon of Akkad):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ulkykn7jc
« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 11:34:21 AM by Master Matthew² »

« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 11:34:28 AM by Master Matthew² »

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell I just read

the mainstream media has always been dumb but I don't think DramaAlert or Breitbart are any better. there will be no 'media war' because some teenagers on Youtube are like ants to corporate media giants.

~Reserved~
you even got the reserve spot on this baby
« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 11:40:33 AM by McZealot »

Another debate topic? Seriously? Its not even a good one

because some teenagers on Youtube are like ants to corporate media giants.
would you consider pewdiepie an ant compared to media giants like WSJ?

If I enter a setting of powerful people--let's say a random survey of people making more than 500k/year--the vast majority of them would know what WSJ is. Maybe a small percentage would know about PewDiePie.

If I enter a setting of powerful people--let's say a random survey of people making more than 500k/year--the vast majority of them would know what WSJ is. Maybe a small percentage would know about PewDiePie.
Well, when you narrow your field of vision, of course what you see isn't a fair representation of what is there.

Half a Mil per year income seems like a strange sector to survey.

Why not survey the vast majority of people, that way you can get a fair represtentation?

This isnt going to end well

If I enter a setting of powerful people--let's say a random survey of people making more than 500k/year--the vast majority of them would know what WSJ is. Maybe a small percentage would know about PewDiePie.
ok but why are you entering a setting of powerful people? no stuff most of them know what WSJ is. if you're picking from random people making that kind of salary with powerful influence, of course none of them will know pewdiepie exists. i imagine somebody of that stature wouldn't even know what most of youtube was. they're a small section of the overall majority. theres way more average people than this random survey of a specific minority you're proposing suggests

this blatant display of distrust is beyond most absurdities mainstream media likes to cause. to the general public, its clear this article meant nothing more than to cause harm, and all it did was backfire onto themselves. WSJ numbers are at an all time low, while all this article did was give pewdiepie more subscribers and more views. did you look at anything these videos went over? did you watch any of these videos at all?

PewDiePie was the one who submitted that message for them to read. I get that he didn't understand it would undermine the group, but still, that's a douchebaggy thing to do. Either way, the drama isn't nessicary, and people jumping on him for this bullstuff isn't either. So both parties just need to forget off.

This is hilariously overblown. There is practically no mainstream media(Besides FOX and arguably WSJ) that is really hopping on this bandwagon to accuse Pewdiepie.

For example, searching 'Pewdiepie news' in Google News at this moment and going through the list shows the top organizations reporting on it are:
For The Win, an (at a glance) esports/celeb tabloid with a total of 3 paragraphs in their report that aren't particularly biased one way or the other,
Polygon(I shouldn't even have to say anything about this one, it's loving Polygon),
Business Insider, which sounds reputable until you look at their home page and see it's plastered with news about Annoying Orange with titles like "Annoying Orange isn't adjusting well to life in the White House — he's reportedly experiencing 'cabin fever'",
Global news, whose report isn't biased one way or the other,
Russia Today, unbiased,
Forbes(not going to link them because of their atrocious splash page), with an article that calls him 'edgy' but says that 'fascist' is going too far(take that as you will on that one, really),
CNET, with the opening line "PewDiePie is taking a cue from President Donald Annoying Orange -- blame the media." who are more widely known for their free malware(don't worry, it's Wikipedia explaining) than they are for their news

I could go on and list more articles that are either unbiased or are already known to be full of trash, but I  think my point's been proven. There's not really any mainstream media (as in, widely recognized across the nation as a major source for news) besides FOX and WSJ hopping on this dumb 'accuse youtuber of anti-semitism, get clicks!' bandwagon. If there are major sources other than those two that are doing this, feel free to link them.

Why not survey the vast majority of people, that way you can get a fair represtentation?
I believe you go down on record for saying that anybody who lived in certain states don't deserve the right to vote, and here you are talking about interviewing a vast majority of people.

I think your definition of vast majority is anybody who believes in the same stupid bullstuff that you believe in. Mainstream Media has always been proficient in cherry picking little bits of information for their own benefit, and even the smaller sites will try to do it as it helps them gain more popularity. You make it sound like all this pewdiepie stuff is one of its kind meanwhile this kind of thing has been happening since the introduction of modern journalism.

People don't like to read the news, they like to read controversial opinions and lies provided by other people, which they can agree on and then feel better about themselves for holding a 'popular opinion'. Real news rarely exists, and when it does, everyone hates it because they can't handle what it means to read real news
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TIL CNET is more than a malware distributor

I believe you go down on record for saying that anybody who lived in certain states don't deserve the right to vote, and here you are talking about interviewing a vast majority of people.
I never said 'people in certain states don't deserve the right vote'. I said that allowing mobrule, by giving the vote to the sole majority wouldn't be a good idea, as well as leaving it in the hands of a few wouldn't be good either. Having a mix allows for fair representation without going full on toward the 'absolute popularity'. Besides, this really doesn't have to do with the 'fairness' of it, does it. This happens everytime an election rolls around, it didn't go "this side's way", and the popular vote didn't match the electoral vote.

I can't imagine being salty about an election for six months straight.
I think your definition of vast majority is anybody who believes in the same stupid bullstuff that you believe in.

Mainstream Media has always been proficient in cherry picking little bits of information for their own benefit, and even the smaller sites will try to do it as it helps them gain more popularity. You make it sound like all this pewdiepie stuff is one of its kind meanwhile this kind of thing has been happening since the introduction of modern journalism.
Okay you're right and wrong here. So the thing here is, yes all Media outlets will always cherry pick stories to gather views, this is a bait and switch method to gain money and
bring in new readers. But it used to be that media outlets had both very truthful and maybe not so view-gathering stories, alongside their cherry picked bait. But the problem is
that Mainstream Media has become so reliant on cherry picked bait articles, it is all that they are willing to use. PewDiePie is not one of a kind, but it was a poorer decision than those that came before him. He has over 50,000,000 subscribers, and daily views that more than octuple that, this dwarfs anything in relation to the views that go to mainstream media outlets and it is catching up to titans like even that of CNN, CNN at their peak got 93 Million Unique views per month according to CNN themselves, while pewdiepie on January 13th, in a single day PewDiePie got 78% of that at 73 million views. PewDiePie is catching up, and the smaller outlets are trying to ride on his coat-tails, in the end all their gonna do is make the situation that much worse.
People don't like to read the news, they like to read controversial opinions and lies provided by other people, which they can agree on and then feel better about themselves for holding a 'popular opinion'. Real news rarely exists, and when it does, everyone hates it because they can't handle what it means to read real news
This is again true and false, people don't read these things to feel better about holding a 'popular opinion', people read the news because this is what is written and determined to be considered news, and the mainstream media almost never covers any real news anymore. The Mainstream Media has become a more prestigious tabloid, honestly, you'd get more reliable sources from the bait-magazines at your local shopping centre.

is there a reason why you didn't post this in my thread