[NEWS] Republican bill will reduce free school lunch

[otto-san]

also i think iphones are generally more of a singular investment rather than something you have to shell out money for every day you want to use it. people can get iphones for christmas/birthday/other occasions and that's fine, but that doesn't mean families will have that money available year-round, every year

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[Red Spy]

ok, how many poor people then?

Presumably the people than can afford iPhones you loving handicap

[Cappytaino]

also i think iphones are generally more of a singular investment rather than something you have to shell out money for every day you want to use it. people can get iphones for christmas/birthday/other occasions and that's fine, but that doesn't mean families will have that money available year-round, every year

but the point is that if you can afford to buy an iphone but can't buy a school lunch for your kid, then you shouldn't buy an iphone

[PhantOS]

Presumably the people than can afford iPhones you loving handicap

obviously. so what should the school do- remove eligibility for children who own iphones?

but the point is that if you can afford to buy an iphone but can't buy a school lunch for your kid, then you shouldn't buy an iphone

it's not the school's job to instruct parents what they should or shouldn't buy. if parents have a budget of $1,000 to spend, they can 'afford' to pay for child's school lunches, but then you're removing those parent's ability to pay for added expenses, save for retirement and other stuff.

if we operated on 'if you can afford to pay for something, pay for it' the moment you break your leg or you get a bug infestation or some other expensive event happens, you'll be broke and unable to pay for it to be fixed. A safe amount of savings would be like 15,000$ a year in order to plan for those extra events and other things. That doesn't include the new iphone or child's school lunch money

[Foxscotch]

But there has to be a better way to make sure kids aren't going hungry while at the same time not putting the burden on the taxpayers for their parents' poor habits.

um, like what

but the point is that if you can afford to buy an iphone but can't buy a school lunch for your kid, then you shouldn't buy an iphone

so what are you suggesting? minimum yearly income requirements for luxuries? it is really completely meaningless to say these things if you aren't posing any kind alternative solution

[Cappytaino]

ok, how many poor people then?
burden is a bit of an overstatement

the only way to enforce this issue is to either shorten the scope of the free lunch program, which will result in millions of families who legitimately cannot afford to dish out lunch money for children to lose the free lunch option, or check the families expenses, which would be entirely unconstitutional.

social welfare has no constitutional basis either. I'd argue that beggars can't be choosers and you should have to disclose your expenses if you claim any sort of welfare.

um, like what

families applying for lunch programs should have to declare a statement of monthly income and expenses. They should have to prove need. If one really needs the program then they should be willing to prove that they do.

[Red Spy]

obviously. so what should the school do- remove eligibility for children who own iphones?

What are you even trying to say at this point

[e-maxx]

it costs roughly 25 cents to produce this meal.
American kids are paying $3.50 per day for this.

Wake up america.

[Foxscotch]

families applying for lunch programs should have to declare a statement of monthly income and expenses. They should have to prove need. If one really needs the program then they should be willing to prove that they do.

and..... the rest? what happens when you don't "pass"? the child must go hungry?

[Red Spy]

Wake up america.

W O K E

[PhantOS]

social welfare has no constitutional basis either. I'd argue that beggars can't be choosers and you should have to disclose your expenses if you claim any sort of welfare.

Allowing schools to come to their own independent decision on lunch eligibility based on spending is a horrible idea altogether. It's prone to abuse, since someone like Red Spy or INH could easily deny someone lunch eligibility if they bought an iphone as a gift for someone. It'd make sense for budget and numbers, but judging individual expenses can invoke bias.

I'd propose that they check your earnings, how much you spend on housing, added expenses and how much you save every year, and then come to the decision. Either way, not much will change. Unless you earn 80-100k a month but regardless live in a cardboard box to save more money, you're still going to save around 10-15 thousand dollars a year for savings

[PhantOS]

What are you even trying to say at this point

I don't understand why you mentioned iphones in the first place. It bears no relevance to this topic, besides stating an obvious fact

it costs roughly 25 cents to produce this meal.
American kids are paying $3.50 per day for this.
Wake up america.

after the shipping cost of the individual ingredients and the paycheck that goes to the lunch-ladies, transporters and employees who manufacture the ingredients, it's around 2-3$

[otto-san]

but the point is that if you can afford to buy an iphone but can't buy a school lunch for your kid, then you shouldn't buy an iphone

i don't think i agree that people should be punished for buying nice things if they're low-income. you can absolutely buy one-time gifts like iphones responsibly on a tight budget (times like christmas and birthdays may also involve people chipping in from more places than just someone's nuclear family). in a more general sense, government arbitrarily determining what people should and shouldn't buy based on their income level alone is obviously a comically bad idea

[Red Spy]

I don't understand why you mentioned iphones in the first place. It bears no relevance to this topic, besides stating an obvious fact

If you can afford a flat ~350$ phone once you can afford to make your own lunches

[PhantOS]

If you can afford a flat ~350$ phone once you can afford to make your own lunches

thank you for that information nugget

the average lunch with necessary macronutrients and vitamins costs round 5$ in all ingredients, multiply by 365 and what's that? 1900 a year? that's definitely cheaper than an iphone that costs 350$ once and never again