[NEWS] Annoying Orange proposes $54 bil increase on military spending

[PhantOS]

More like you will be put on a 10 year waiting list because of how many people that are trying to get in

you make it sound like the entire country will start going to college in one day

free education wouldn't force them to accept everyone, they'd just accept the same amount of people but instead of some students not being able to go because its $40,000 a year, they'll now be able to go. They will still accept the same amount of people into the school, they'll just turn down people who are not as good but have the money

i have a friend who can't afford to go to any college other than city because her family is dirt poor. even though she got accepted, her parents won't pay for it and she doesnt have the money. if it was free, she would be in the place of someone else who is less qualified but has the $40,000

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[beachbum111111]

even though she got accepted, her parents won't pay for it and she doesnt have the money. if it was free, she would be in the place of someone else who is less qualified but has the $40,000

She has two options
A. Take a student loan
B. Join the military for three years

[PhantOS]

She has two options
A. Take a student loan
B. Join the military for three years

both of those options are terrible options

[beachbum111111]

both of those options are terrible options

I guess she's not really determined to get an education then. Pity

[Poliwhirl]

Taxing the 1 percent by up to 90% like what Bernie wanted is pretty loving ridiculous. Also the video in my original post explains why this doesn't work

this was already debunked in the other thread you posted this in but it seems you ignored that

More like you will be put on a 10 year waiting list because of how many people that are trying to get in

right, just like how american high schools are overflowing with waiting lists to get in.

You are beyond deluded at this point
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/france-drops-75percent-supertax

what about that in particular works as a response to my post?

I guess she's not really determined to get an education then. Pity

so you either have to risk your life in the military or spend the rest of your life paying off student loans or else you're just a liberal mooching off the system?

[Zloff]

how about instead of increasing it we cut the budget in half and force our military to be less wasteful with what they're already given

"america's military is embarrassingly weak! we used 60-70yo bombers recently!" - republicans

1. how in thee loving world do we have such a "weak" military when we spend this much? if you give your kid a weekly $20 allowance of which they're expected to use to spend on food for when you aren't home some days but they spend it on steam games do you give him more money to compensate or tell him to quit loving around? we should be able to conquer the planet with this kind of spending ffs

2. we're fighting an enemy with low-tech capabilities and practically no anti-air, do we spend money to send in the super-expensive-to-operate-and-maintain b-2 (the best in the world(lol "weak")) or the perfectly operational b52 that will get the job done all the same? at least that there's some proper budgeting.


free college is a terrible idea. the government shouldn't subsidize student loans at all

[PhantOS]

I guess she's not really determined to get an education then. Pity

So let me get this straight. If you're born a poor student, you have two options:

Take out a loan, which will be really difficult to pay and if you miss it at all you'll be forgeted over with an inescapable debt that will reduce your credit score, making it impossible for you to start businesses, receive investments from other people, buy automobiles, and various other stuffty things

or

Risk your life in the military, a service that you may or may not be qualified to participate in based on your medical history, and won't actually pay you enough to survive for more than a year once your tour ends

i understand most colleges offer financial aid for low-income students but that covers almost 50% of the cost, which will end up being like 18-20k anyways.

[Zloff]

Risk your life in the military,

ok i don't entirely agree with beachbums 2-choice thing, but a majority of military occupations are not combat roles

[beachbum111111]

this was already debunked in the other thread you posted this in but it seems you ignored that

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261326/fact-check-does-bernie-sanders-want-90-tax-daniel-greenfield

just like how american high schools are overflowing with waiting lists to get in.

Yeah man it's not like there are far more of one then the other https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84

what about that in particular works as a response to my post?

they control 99% of the nation's wealth, they'll live if pay more on their taxes/are actually forced to pay their taxes instead of evading them

If you actually read the article France tried taxing the richer part of their population more and it backfired.

spend the rest of your life paying off student loans

If you got a stuffty degree that didn't qualify you for a well paying job then yes.

[PhantOS]

1. how in thee loving world do we have such a "weak" military when we spend this much? if you give your kid a weekly $20 allowance of which they're expected to use to spend on food for when you aren't home some days but they spend it on steam games do you give him more money to compensate or tell him to quit loving around? we should be able to conquer the planet with this kind of spending ffs

2. we're fighting an enemy with low-tech capabilities and practically no anti-air, do we spend money to send in the super-expensive-to-operate-and-maintain b-2 (the best in the world(lol "weak")) or the perfectly operational b52 that will get the job done all the same? at least that there's some proper budgeting.

Military planning is more than just 'buy this tank and use it'

there's a lot of complexity and investments that go into international conflicts and other stuff, but for the most part it's the government making a deal with NRA and other military industrial companies to contract thousands of vehicles, most of which aren't going to be used. I think that our current military could function at the same capacity and effectiveness at 150 billion a year

free college is a terrible idea. the government shouldn't subsidize student loans at all

Since colleges are a business, I believe they shouldn't be entirely payed for, but I still believe that the government should cover some the cost for students based on their financial situation, since the cost of college is outrageously high. Colleges still make a ton of money on meal plans and varsity sports tickets, which make up if not 50% of the college's income.

ok i don't entirely agree with beachbums 2-choice thing, but a majority of military occupations are not combat roles

true true. the pay is still stuff though

[Poliwhirl]

ok i don't entirely agree with beachbums 2-choice thing, but a majority of military occupations are not combat roles

joining the military as a means to survive is still inherently dystopian and worrying.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261326/fact-check-does-bernie-sanders-want-90-tax-daniel-greenfield

"We don't know how high Bernie Sanders might want to set tax rates."
from the article you linked

Yeah man it's not like there are far more of one then the other https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84

no kidding. if colleges weren't run by businesses, more of them could be built, and there wouldn't be a need for colleges to exploit their students so that they could earn more money.

If you actually read the article France tried taxing the richer part of their population more and it backfired.

right, so we should just live in fear of the rich, knowing that god forbid we try to make them pay their fair share of taxes, they'll pull the rug out from under us? is that the kind of country you're ok with?

If you got a stuffty degree that didn't qualify you for a well paying job then yes.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/09/15/stem-graduates-cant-find-jobs
TIL that STEM degrees are stuffty and dont qualify you for a well paying job

[RedGajin]

true true. the pay is still stuff though

doesnt the military cover some if not all of college expenses tho? or is that only certain branches

[PhantOS]

doesnt the military cover some if not all of college expenses tho? or is that only certain branches

i think if you get a degree in like military specialist stuff like technology, electronics, operation and medical stuff they cover some of it.

[RedGajin]

i think if you get a degree in like military specialist stuff like technology, electronics, operation and medical stuff they cover some of it.

http://time.com/money/4006227/gi-bill-college-tuition/
couple paragraphs in here that seems to cover how the military funds veterans going to college

The Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits include up to 36 months of tuition and fees, a monthly housing allowance and a books and supplies stipend of up to $1,000 a year. For servicemembers to be eligible to use these benefits for themselves, they must have served at least 90 aggregate days on active duty after September 10, 2001

to be fair, that seems like it would cover most all your expenses, on top of veterans benefits individual universities and other scholarship programs provide

[beachbum111111]

no kidding. if colleges weren't run by businesses, more of them could be built, and there wouldn't be a need for colleges to exploit their students so that they could earn more money.

Public university's are already run by the governemnt you loving dunce

.right, so we should just live in fear of the rich, knowing that god forbid we try to make them pay their fair share of taxes, they'll pull the rug out from under us? is that the kind of country you're ok with?

Sorry but people don't like getting their money stolen from them to pay for handicaps like you to get a degree that was a complete waste of time and money.

TIL that STEM degrees are stuffty and dont qualify you for a well paying job

STEM was never a big field. You would be better off not going to uni at all in that case and saving yourself the money you wasted.