so donald Annoying Orange accused obama of wiretapping the Annoying Orange tower, "proved wrong"

[Red Spy]

Did Annoying Orange lie about the reason the guy died

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[SeventhSandwich]

Did Annoying Orange lie about the reason the guy died

I feel like that's a loaded question. You've gotta prove that Clinton did that before asking something like that.

[Red Spy]

I feel like that's a loaded question. You've gotta prove that Clinton did that before asking something like that.

Well she said Benghazi was because of a video even though it wasn't

[SeventhSandwich]

Well she said Benghazi was because of a video even though it wasn't

Does it really constitute a lie if the causes of the raid weren't even clear at that point? She mentioned the mohammed video to the survivors and families before they figured out what happened.

Operating off of inconclusive information is one thing, but if she waited until they knew the whole story, you guys would crucify her for 'not speaking with the families' fast enough.

[Drydess]

They do though?

...which is the way it is, which is why i'm confused that people complain about that while supporting the college

[McZealot]

too far

It undoubtedly needs reform--namely the concept of 'electors' needs to go and revert to the majority vote of the congressional districts. As it stands now 280 men could single-handedly overthrow democracy and name Jeb Bush president and it would be completely legal. However it exists to give representation to the narrow minority. If the 52% always win over the 48%, then those 48% never have a say in the government. If we give them a light boost via the college, it will essentially dissolve to 50/50 where they win on equal terms. 48% beating out the 52% wouldn't be fair if it only happened once, but since we hold a new election every 4 years, it tends to equal out.

I would prefer ranked voting (so third parties would be viable) far more than an abolition of the college.

[Red Spy]

As it stands now 280 men could single-handedly overthrow democracy and name Jeb Bush president and it would be completely legal.

But iirc there's like 12 states that make it illegal to change your vote, but it's just a fine

[Foxscotch]

It undoubtedly needs reform--namely the concept of 'electors' needs to go and revert to the majority vote of the congressional districts. As it stands now 280 men could single-handedly overthrow democracy and name Jeb Bush president and it would be completely legal. However it exists to give representation to the narrow minority. If the 52% always win over the 48%, then those 48% never have a say in the government. If we give them a light boost via the college, it will essentially dissolve to 50/50 where they win on equal terms. 48% beating out the 52% wouldn't be fair if it only happened once, but since we hold a new election every 4 years, it tends to equal out.

I don't get why it needs to be split up at all. every vote can just count as one vote. maybe the electoral college made it easier when you had to take horses to get everyone's vote counted, but we've got the internet and stuff now. it seems completely pointless

[McZealot]

Because very few countries are as divided as America. We're huge and essentially have 2 different culture in the north and the south. The South kinda wanted to be independent but since that didn't work out having a system that grants them equal privilege to the majority group of the north despite their minority status is a better form of representation than simply repressing them.

[Trymos]

anybody remember 2012? where we completely ignored the election lmao

good times

[beachbum111111]

anybody remember 2012? where we completely ignored the election lmao

good times

No there were threads on it. Though it was basically one guy who liked Romney and everyone else liked Obongo

[Foxscotch]

anybody remember 2012? where we completely ignored the election lmao
good times

too concerned with the end of the world

[McZealot]

that's because everyone and their mother was scrambling to suck ron paul's crusty old richard

[Zloff]

that's because everyone and their mother was scrambling to suck ron paul's crusty old richard

we didn't suck hard enough tbh

he wouldn't have left us with his son otherwise

[Punished Toxicology]

what if ron paul stepped on your balls so hard you came all over his shoes Lol