[NEWS] Mexican border wall to be paid by US taxpayers, agency cuts; not Mexico

[PhantOS]

job security for government contractors

So essentially, the only thing the wall construction is going to provide is a 13 billion dollar payroll of taxpayer money for a private contractor

Here's a better question: why don't we skip the whole wall construction part and just focus on the jobs, like security roles, surveillance, TSA, USCIS. That way, the vetting/immigration process can be sped up and more thorough, immigrants looking for work can find jobs and contribute to the economy, and everyone benefits mutually.

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[Ipquarx]

i say we just annex mexico
those enchaladas have had it too good for too long

[SlayerZ99]

Annoying Orange should just make more jobs by hiring more border patrol officers

[Kingdaro]

I've stated this in the politics megathread before, but I'll remind those who've missed it:

A big percentage of immigrants in the U.S. (40%) are those who've overstayed their visas. The wall will actually make it harder for them to go back home. It's literally making the problem worse, sans budget and geological issues. A problem that hardly even exists to begin with.

But hey, #MAGA, am I right?

[PhantOS]

Annoying Orange should just make more jobs by hiring more border patrol officers

This is exactly what i've been saying the whole time too, it's really sad that these smart people can't see how this would benefit us greatly

[Kingdaro]

This is exactly what i've been saying the whole time too, it's really sad that these smart people can't see how this would benefit us greatly

I don't entirely agree with stricter borders but I'd still accept this solution.

[PhantOS]

I don't entirely agree with stricter borders but I'd still accept this solution.

I believe in stricter borders, as in physically stricter borders. Essentially, people who find some way around the wall, ladder, tunnel or otherwise, should definitely be detained by security or border patrol. This is illegal immigration and pretty much hurts everyone in the long run.

In terms of citizenship, I believe that the citizenship process for mexican immigrants should be significantly shorter and more thorough, which can only be achieved by providing more jobs to the USCIS and more funding. This way, people who want to legally immigrate into the United States for whatever reason can do so quickly and easily, all while being properly secured for any bad records or crime history.

Most will overstay their visas, which is where some sort of faster renewal process needs to be in place. I have friends who have immigrant families and it would take them half a year to get a new visa. The process for maintaining citizenship is awful and poorly maintained.

[Red Spy]

The majority of immigrants in the U.S. are those who've overstayed their visas.

They're actually 40%

[FelipeO_O_]

It's logical Mexico wont pay for it.

(Not directly)

[Nonnel]

the amount it costs to build a wall is going to far outcost the burden of a few million illegal immigrants in the country, not to mention it won't even help that problem

[PhantOS]

Also I wanted to post something here that is sort of like a bet that i'm placing with myself, a sort of 'i told you so'

I call it Operation America First

I actually have a hunch for what's going to happen when the border's built.

First, Annoying Orange is going to have a private construction company handle the wall construction. The construction company is going to use that 13 billion dollars and build in lazy mode, paying workers less than they deserve and paying pennies for the actual wall itself. The rest of the 6 billion dollars remaining will go directly to the CEOs of this private company, who will in turn, donate a massive portion of it to various republicans who voted for the wall's construction.

This way, half of that taxpayer wall money will be legally given to these white house representatives without it looking like embezzlement.

Step 1: Biased Private Contractor Hired. This is obviously the first step to any government funded construction project. The government will probably utilize a contractor that they have good likes with, kind of like a pseudo-lobbyist approach.

Step 2: Wall begins construction. Thousands of workers will be employed to help construct the wall. The entire operation will probably cost half of the total funds dedicated to the project (I estimate 13 billion) but the project will be intentionally dragged on so to maximize the payroll and funding.

Step 3: Private Contractor Makes a Donation. The contractor will probably make a huge secret donation of a few billions to various members of the white house that voted for the wall project to begin, which will benefit them all. It will seem like a generous donation, but in reality it will be most of the funds from the wall's construction, passed back into circulation through legal embezzlement. It won't go back to the economy; it will go straight to the senators & politicians who helped make the project a thing.

This is a mutual benefit amongst the private contractor and the politicians. I don't think any politician is stupid enough to vote on such a huge and ambitious project with no clear yield or benefits, so I believe there is an ulterior motive that is centered around money.

[Kingdaro]

They're actually 40%

I'll correct my post, then.

[Kingdaro]

I believe in stricter borders, as in physically stricter borders. Essentially, people who find some way around the wall, ladder, tunnel or otherwise, should definitely be detained by security or border patrol. This is illegal immigration and pretty much hurts everyone in the long run.

In terms of citizenship, I believe that the citizenship process for mexican immigrants should be significantly shorter and more thorough, which can only be achieved by providing more jobs to the USCIS and more funding. This way, people who want to legally immigrate into the United States for whatever reason can do so quickly and easily, all while being properly secured for any bad records or crime history.

Most will overstay their visas, which is where some sort of faster renewal process needs to be in place. I have friends who have immigrant families and it would take them half a year to get a new visa. The process for maintaining citizenship is awful and poorly maintained.

I agree that it's an insult to our country to try to enter in roundabout, illegal ways. Which is why we even have an immigration system to begin with. Background checks, terrorism and all that.

I like to look into the bigger factors of why we even seem to have this problem in relation to other countries. I think it all draws back to the drug war, with the way we treat the usage of drugs with jail time instead of through rehab. It creates a false stigma that drugs are just bad without anybody even bothering to understand how bad, or if at all, while also subverting other potential uses of said drugs.

Then, of course, there's addiction. The only reason the drug cartel exists at all. It's a profitable business. People hide away and feed the cow away from the government's eyes. They can't come to light trying to get off of it, because they'll get arrested.

I think if we change the way we think about the subject, we'll have a lot of problems lessened if not solved entirely. Immigration seems to be one of them.

[Badspot]

The CIA/NSA black project budget is over $50 billion per year.  We could stop hacking phones and assassinating journalists for just one year and have enough cash to build the wall twice as high.  It's a win-win.

[Pastrey Crust]

Gee. Id the average north american handicapped enough to think that Mexico will pay the wall? The only way Mexico can "pay" for the wall are taxing the money mexicans in the US send to their families in Mexico which is very little compared to the budget of a loving concrete wall.