[NEWS] College tuition now free for 125k a year and below families in NY

[Zloff]

Maybe it's actually, y'know, a good thing that higher education has become the norm

it actually isn't; there's no huge demand for a lot of professional jobs since the market is already flooded with unemployed college graduates (degree inflation) whereas skilled trades are rising in demand as the handy baby boomers are beginning to retire

the fact that our society keeps pushing the idea that you need to go to college only adds to the issue, and kids' stress levels. schools (and parents) don't encourage kids to consider a skilled trade, they just throw standardized tests at them (and even classes to prepare for those tests) meant to scale their worthiness for particular colleges. so they grow up thinking of trade jobs as an underpaying and/or universally undesirable last resort. half a decade into a trade job and you could be making 50-60k easy without the +80k debt

You don't need a degree to prove yourself if you already can prove yourself from the loving ground up.

obviously a strong portfolio could still convince an employer to dismiss a lack of a degree. "college is a waste of time but you need a degree to do anything" i swear if you're living off welfare.......

[Ad Bot]

[Damp]

Why is college so stupidly expensive in the us?

honestly its a given that your knew you could've done this but nooo you had to say this as a little jab towards americaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Nonnel]

it actually isn't; there's no huge demand for a lot of professional jobs since the market is already flooded with unemployed college graduates (degree inflation) whereas skilled trades are rising in demand as the handy baby boomers are beginning to retire

the fact that our society keeps pushing the idea that you need to go to college only adds to the issue, and kids' stress levels. schools (and parents) don't encourage kids to consider a skilled trade, they just throw standardized tests at them (and even classes to prepare for those tests) meant to scale their worthiness for particular colleges. so they grow up thinking of trade jobs as an underpaying and/or universally undesirable last resort. half a decade into a trade job and you could be making 50-60k easy without the +80k debt

i'm not saying it's necessarily good for the economy, nor that our current education structure is good, and i definitely don't support the massive price increases colleges are pushing just because they can, just that in general it is a good thing that people are striving to be more educated

[MoltenKitten]

On a related note NY taxes are outrageous, that's why my family moved

[Kochieboy]

WAIT

EXCUSE ME WHAT

Does this mean I'm finally not going to have to pay out the ass for my college?

[Aide33]

it actually isn't; there's no huge demand for a lot of professional jobs since the market is already flooded with unemployed college graduates (degree inflation) whereas skilled trades are rising in demand as the handy baby boomers are beginning to retire

the fact that our society keeps pushing the idea that you need to go to college only adds to the issue, and kids' stress levels. schools (and parents) don't encourage kids to consider a skilled trade, they just throw standardized tests at them (and even classes to prepare for those tests) meant to scale their worthiness for particular colleges. so they grow up thinking of trade jobs as an underpaying and/or universally undesirable last resort. half a decade into a trade job and you could be making 50-60k easy without the +80k debt


obviously a strong portfolio could still convince an employer to dismiss a lack of a degree. "college is a waste of time but you need a degree to do anything" i swear if you're living off welfare.......

this is a lot better wording that what tony was putting out

i understand your point, we should emphasise every job throwing people into university.

but on the other hand, tony thinks university is bs so ill just quit rn and go be a NASA engineer or design bridges that will fall on people

[Kochieboy]

HOYL forget GUYS I THNK I'M HAVING A STROKE I MUST BE loving DREAMING

[Frankie²]

I live in the south you stuffburger.

thats even worse you poor soul

[Maxwell.]

this is a lot better wording that what tony was putting out

i understand your point, we should emphasise every job throwing people into university.

but on the other hand, tony thinks university is bs so ill just quit rn and go be a NASA engineer or design bridges that will fall on people

design a space bridge so gravity wont affect it and it won't fail, two careers + no college = key to success

[King Tøny]

Wow man I never said you don't need a loving degree for stuff like NASA. Get out of here.

You don't need a degree to design videogames.

You don't need a degree to start a business.

You don't need a degree to be a store manager at walmart.

[Frankie²]

You don't need a degree to design videogames.

You don't need a degree to start a business.

You don't need a degree to be a store manager at walmart.

are any of those even going to net you a decent living?
business owner might but a huuuuge majority of them fail within the first few years so it isnt even worth considering as a career path

[King Tøny]

are any of those even going to net you a decent living?

Depending on how good your videogames are, they can provide a living. Even independent.

A decent mom and pop shop business can make a living.

A store manager at walmart earns about 250,000 or more a year.

[King Tøny]

Even assistant managers make about 40,000-80,000 a year at walmart.

[Insert Name Here²]

Do u know how hard it is to become an assistant manager / full manager with only a highschool diploma?

loving lmao good luck trying

[Frankie²]

Depending on how good your videogames are, they can provide a living. Even independent.
badspot is  indepedent but that doesn't mean he's making a good amount of money either

A decent mom and pop shop business can make a living.
a career based off of luck alone? no thanks. unless you inherit it you're most likely not going to last very long

A store manager at walmart earns about 250,000 or more a year.
where are you getting this data from? glassdoor.com is showing 150k as the "above average" salary, and most likely that data is coming from people with a lot of experience and a degree