[NEWS] Murder-Self Delete at Cali. elementary school kills 3, wounds 1

[Ringabel]

I agree to an extent, probably not. We're lucky the guy took his own life really, because nobody could have stopped him if he decided one life wasn't enough. I think its the concept of the matter, this could have easily been another Gritty Grapnel.

Lanza committed Self Delete as well

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[Tayasaurus]

Lanza committed Self Delete as well

He took more with him with the intent to do so though so i'm not seeing your point

[Tactical Nuke]

See in Australia we manage to do that by not endorsing a culture of gun crazed madness

aye how's that workin' out for ya mate

[Darryl McKoy]

aye how's that workin' out for ya mate

Really well actually? Look how few of them are recent and gun related. It works.

[Tayasaurus]

Demographically Australia and the US aren't even worth the comparison.

[Bisjac]

See in Australia we manage to do that by not endorsing a culture of gun crazed madness

we had to kick out the brits, and guns were needed, and since then were needed to prevent them (or others) again.
austrailia is a dump no one wanted, even the people that were put there.

[mod-man]

Unless they're in the room with their gun already out and aimed at the perp, they're not going to be able to do stuff.

since this was a single target and its pretty easy to get away with killing a single person, im thinking of broader situations when i say this but

schools have PA systems? they can alert everyone at once when theres believed to be a shooter in the building? thats plenty of time for any one teacher in their class to arm and prepare themselves and those around them

[Bisjac]

schools already go into lockdown when these things happen.
thats when the teacher goes to the safe and gets the gun, to continue to wait in the room.

as apposed to other school shootings, where all lockdowns did was gather students into nice balls in corners of rooms for the picking lol.

[Rally]

aye how's that workin' out for ya mate

Playing to the media-outrage Flash Mob card only strengthens the point because there actually haven't been many recent mass killings in Australia. You'd have more success if you went for meth biker gangs shooting people in Melbourne

Just last month some dude in WA pulled a gun out on the train I take to loving college. The train security couldn't do jack stuff except hide behind the seats and pray that the richardhead wasn't disgruntled enough to go full murder Self Delete. After that he just walked off the platform and into the suburbs like nothing happened. They're starting to catch on here. If they can import hundreds of millions of dollars worth of biker crank in from China on a shipping container, they can bring in guns as well.

[beachbum111111]

It's a good thing its so easy to make chlorine gas.

[Darryl McKoy]

we had to kick out the brits, and guns were needed, and since then were needed to prevent them (or others) again.
austrailia is a dump no one wanted, even the people that were put there.

I mean we started with guns too, we just came to our senses after the first large massacre

I agree it's not worth comparison though. If a bunch of kindergartens can be brutally murdered in a mass shooting and nothing happens, US culture is not going to change.

[IkeTheGeneric]

I don't really think the victim being armed here would have made a difference if the homicide was premeditated and she was specifically targeted. I know y'all like to wank your self defense fantasies but in a realistic scenario where somebody's trying to shoot you with a concealed handgun, the window to react while surprised is astronomically small, especially for an untrained citizen.

It could've made a difference, but it most likely wouldn't have.

[Bisjac]

american students have a lot more moments of "i have nothing left to lose".
its not some bullstuff mental illness though. its the entire broken system and failed generation(s).

[mod-man]

where all lockdowns did was gather students into nice balls in corners of rooms for the picking lol.

and lets not forget about the fact that the police's primary goal is to maintain the situation. taking care of it isn't a priority. thats a job for the big boys with the big guns

it took the SWAT team nearly an hour to even enter columbine, and that was after the entire 20 minute shooting

[IkeTheGeneric]

its not some bullstuff mental illness though. its the entire broken system and failed generation(s).

Is it really one or the other? Why not both? America doesn't necessarily have that great of a track record when it comes to mental illness.