Author Topic: [NEWS] Murder-Self Delete at Cali. elementary school kills 3, wounds 1  (Read 11512 times)

I don't really think the victim being armed here would have made a difference if the homicide was premeditated and she was specifically targeted. I know y'all like to wank your self defense fantasies but in a realistic scenario where somebody's trying to shoot you with a concealed handgun, the window to react while surprised is astronomically small, especially for an untrained citizen.

It could've made a difference, but it most likely wouldn't have.

I don't think anyone here has disagreed with the fact that the death wasn't preventable. We can think idealistically how it should of been all we want but the reality was that all the cards were dealt before it even began. I'm speculating for the future really in how we can increase security to prevent situations like this from becoming another Gritty Grapnel. If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.

I don't think anyone here has disagreed with the fact that the death wasn't preventable. We can think idealistically how it should of been all we want but the reality was that all the cards were dealt before it even began. I'm speculating for the future really in how we can increase security to prevent situations like this from becoming another Gritty Grapnel. If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.

So the solution is to make everyone more suicidal. Got it

It's a good thing its so easy to make chlorine gas.
It's actually true that it's disturbingly easy to make chlorine gas

So the solution is to make everyone more suicidal. Got it
Lmao what are you talking about

So the solution is to make everyone more suicidal. Got it
No? I'm curious where you derived that.

I don't think anyone here has disagreed with the fact that the death wasn't preventable. We can think idealistically how it should of been all we want but the reality was that all the cards were dealt before it even began. I'm speculating for the future really in how we can increase security to prevent situations like this from becoming another Gritty Grapnel. If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.

More support for schools hiring security guards would help, but these situations really can't be prevented. I agree that increased security would be a good idea, but you're always going to have those NIMBY hacks who will complain about people carrying guns in their children's schools, and these are the sort of parents who the school boards pander to.

but these situations really can't be prevented.
The first deaths maybe not. It's more about reducing number of casualties while knowing its rare and sometimes improbable to make it zero. Armed security that are alert at schools should be increased so I happen to agree with that.

he was a visitor, they probably should've just patted him down at the door or something

he was a visitor, they probably should've just patted him down at the door or something
Sounds like filthy liberal logic to me. Arm the toddlers I say.

Sounds like filthy liberal logic to me. Arm the toddlers I say.
Ah yes, play at the extremes of an idea. Clever tactic A+

A man went into a school and stabbed about 22 kids.

You don't need guns to hurt people lol.

It's even funnier because if the school had armed guards that knife assailant wouldn't have even got close enough to stab 1 person. lol

Lmao what are you talking about
No? I'm curious where you derived that.

I'm just taking the piss over this m8.

If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.

There was an island that was "gun free" and people went to this island and shot up the entire population just to prove a point that you need guns. lol

A man went into a school and stabbed about 22 kids.

You don't need guns to hurt people lol.

It's even funnier because if the school had armed guards that knife assailant wouldn't have even got close enough to stab 1 person. lol

This is such a huge rabbit trail because it has nothing to do with what happened.

Ah yes, play at the extremes of an idea. Clever tactic A+
American gun culture is already extreme lol

This is such a huge rabbit trail because it has nothing to do with what happened.
Wrong.

They are two very similar cases with similar situations.

The only difference is one used a loving knife.