Berkeley CA Megathread | 4/28/17 | "I am a loving woman"

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A lot of the violence that happens at these protest clashes are herd mentality. You tend to mention a lot that antifa is 'causing the problems' even though the first punch comes from both sides equally. it's not like showing up to a protest with nonviolent intentions but surrounded by people with violent intentions puts you at fault when someone else in the group decides to throw the punch. and from then on, it's probably people on both sides who lash out violently.

in the end, the 'he started it!' argument is handicapped and anybody who engages in physical violence should be charged, antifa and pro-Annoying Orange alike. antifa's goal is to express their opinion, the same as the pro-Annoying Orange protesters as well. however, since the police aren't doing jack stuff, there is obviously tension that leads to violence on both sides

A lot of the violence that happens at these protest clashes are herd mentality. You tend to mention a lot that antifa is 'causing the problems' even though the first punch comes from both sides equally.

antifa's goal is to express their opinion, the same as the pro-Annoying Orange protesters as well.
ANTIFA is causing the problems and throwing the first punches though. They go out and riot with the express intent of stopping the conservative speakers from speaking and holding their events. That's why they yell crap like "shut it down!" and "keep your hate speech off our campus!". Their goal is to stop people from sharing their opinions, that's literally why they exist. The pro-Annoying Orange protesters are a reactionary group that forms in response to ANTIFA's bigotry. They are 100% in favor of everyone being able to share their views, while ANTIFA's mission every single time has been to stop people from sharing their views. That's the fundamental difference between the two groups.

I do agree that herd mentality does play a part when the riots get more violent, and that is normal fallen human nature for people to start acting like animals when they see other people acting like animals. However, while that's a thing both sides can be at fault for, ANTIFA has repeatedly been the sole group initiating and prolonging the violence, every single time, simply because they can't handle opinions. If they didn't show up to riot and try to physically stop people from speaking on their campus, literally no Annoying Orange supporters would show up either to counter-protest them. They'd just walk in, sit down, and listen to the speaker, like they did at UMass before ANTIFA really existed. It's a shame both groups can't come together anymore to do just that. Sadly, ANTIFA's fundamental reason for existing is because they are not interested in doing that.
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i mean here it looks like you flippantly tried to justify the woman being punched because she expressed a joke line from a movie. its hard to decipher what you really meant by "regardless whatever tf..."

that was a jab at poli, who in the previous Berkeley thread tried to justify an old man getting pepper-sprayed by Antifa because he said he was "old but ready to roll" or something like that
if you understood the context you wouldn't have posted this, but apparently nobody loving did so I don't blame you

it depends on the situation. saying 'i'm going to kill your family' is vastly worse than going to a protest because you believe in antifa and want to express your opinion. unless... everyone at antifa has the intent on murdering when they show up to a protest, a motive anybody has yet to prove

Antifa's sole purpose for existing is to attack who they see as "fascists":
Quote from: Wikipedia
There are slogans like "antifascism means attack" not only against neonational socialists but also against the civil and capitalist system of the "Bundesrepublik Deutschland". In modern usage, anti-fascism is sometimes shortened to "Antifa".
keep in mind too, any nonlethal attack can become lethal very quickly given enough anger and the right tools, so there's definite cause for alarm

if they aren't the bad mofo's you say I think they are, then BAMN is, and BAMN organizes these "counterprotests" in conjunction with Antifa
not to mention Yvette Felarca, BAMN's leader, is practically loving psychotic

nevertheless you cannot deny that violence and destruction follows everywhere these people go

The pro-Annoying Orange protesters are a reactionary group that forms in response to ANTIFA's bigotry.
I do think there's hypocrisy in preventing controversial speakers from coming to universities, but this is definitely a one-sided picture. A radicalized idiot built himself armor and a weapon deliberately to incite fights at a protest, and the alt-right turned him into a folk hero a-la Johnny Appleseed. Glorifying violence as a means for social change is provably something that happens on both sides.

There are more anecdotes involving Antifa inciting violence because liberal politics is doing poorly - violent grassroots extremism is the only mode-of-action available for the leftist extremists. The right-wing extremists are holding offices and turning their bullstuff into laws.

you and leisure are blending together into one big pool of Berkeley denial

I even posted images in the OP so I'm extremely dumbfounded as to how you think these guys aren't a threat
he even posted images? incredible

People constantly point to Antifa as this serious threat to free speech rights when they're just a bunch of kids who don't move political discourse beyond punching and throwing stuff. Stop taking them seriously.

he even posted images? incredible
yes dude can't you see the big green laser beam in the 3rd picture? antifa could destroy the world with this sort of technology

People constantly point to Antifa as this serious threat to free speech rights when they're just a bunch of kids who don't move political discourse beyond punching and throwing stuff. Stop taking them seriously.
All violent regimes consist of these stupid pricks. They're dangerous.

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