Author Topic: UK Election 2017 - ELECTION NIGHT  (Read 26927 times)

so who won
No one won, ultimately.

The Tories have the most votes and seats, but less than they had before calling the election, and less than the majority required to pass laws unimpeded and independently.

Labour did well for themselves, but they still fell very short of the majority needed to form a government.

The SNP did terribly and lost 20 seats, which is bad for SNP as they were running the campaigns in Scotland as a question of supporting a call for Scottish independence. Vote SNP if you want another referendum, vote others if you don't.
Clearly a sizable portion of Scots are now tired from the last 5 years of UK/EU Independence Referendums and campaigning.

The other small parties had middling results, UKIP lost their seat and leader, Lib Dems gained a couple of seats but are still decimated from the previous election, and Green/Plaid Cymru tick on with a few seats but no power.

As for the people, none of us really win.

We have a minority Tory Government, who are forming a special relationship with a Northern Irish party, the DUP, who are controversial.
The agreement seems to be that DUP will back Tories in key areas, particularly Brexit.
But, it's not a coalition, and in other affairs the Tories are on their own and can be vetoed by the opposition.

The Tory/DUP alliance also has a very slight majority (less than Tories had on their own), so they really need strong whips as even a couple of MPs from either party who do not vote in favour of the governments wishes can jeopardise them.

Likewise a weak opposition of parties from across the spectrum with a wide range of views may find it difficult to cooperate and challenge the Government.


And overall the situation means we are going into Brexit talks in just days with a weakened Government, facing their own upheavals and reshuffling.

So yes, no one really won at all.


Personally I'm obviously annoyed at the Tories not doing anywhere near as well as hoped, and it seems like the PM accidentally shot herself in the foot by calling an election.
BUT, I still think it was a good idea at the time, and necessary to try.
It's just a shame that the country faced national tragedies in that time, and it's unfortunate that the Tories weren't more successful with campaigning.
But hindsight is a bitch.

shame because the SNP promised more than just independence. I wish that wasn't their biggest selling point to people, and people actually looked at what they've done for scotland already
« Last Edit: June 11, 2017, 08:34:07 PM by Maxwell. »

snp are the autistic little cousin of the british political system

snp are the autistic little cousin of the british political system
still not as handicapped as the old men you support

can we just agree that all modern politics suck ass

still not as handicapped as the old men you support

lol

shame because the SNP promised more than just independence. I wish that wasn't their biggest selling point to people, and people actually looked at what they've done for scotland already
I think it was really really silly of Sturgeon to demand another referendum so soon after the Brexit referendum.
Once May put her foot down and said "no, now's not the time, maybe after we leave the EU", Sturgeon dropped it immediately.
So it came as a shock to me that it became part of the GE campaign.


The SNP really should drop independence for now and focus on running Scotland well.
They should use the time to prove that they can govern well, and then should Scotland ever choose independence the SNP will have a good chance of being chosen to run the country and do a good job.
Because as it stands currently, if Scotland were independent tomorrow, I don't think the people would entirely trust them to know how to run a fully autonomous nation.

Theresa "lets hold an election oops almost got thrown out lol" May

The SNP really should drop independence for now and focus on running Scotland well.
They should use the time to prove that they can govern well, and then should Scotland ever choose independence the SNP will have a good chance of being chosen to run the country and do a good job.
Because as it stands currently, if Scotland were independent tomorrow, I don't think the people would entirely trust them to know how to run a fully autonomous nation.
while I agree that they should stop focusing on independence as much (but not completely, as I think after brexit it should be held), I think people need to look past independence and see that they have been running scotland well already and what they can do for scotland in the future. they just need to use it as a campaign point more, I guess

while I agree that they should stop focusing on independence as much (but not completely, as I think after brexit it should be held), I think people need to look past independence and see that they have been running scotland well already. they just need to use it as a campaign point more, I guess
Yeah, it's equal parts SNP doing more AND pointing out that they're doing more.
Obviously it would be silly to throw away the call for independence as an independence-party, but it should definitely be on the backburner. It's currently not going to make friends in Scotland OR the UK.

They should currently emphasise that they're the Scottish Nationalist Party, and not the Scottish Nationalist Party.

This is what UKIP didn't do, and now that we're no longer with the EU and they have no significant plans for the UK they're naturally losing most of their support.

and it's unfortunate that the Tories weren't more successful with campaigning.
nah, it was very fortunate they were unsuccessful


basically farage is my hero

By the way Labour now has a six-point lead over the Tories in the event of another general election, which could very well happen in less than a year if the coalition fails (considering how stable it is, it's likely).

keep talking but farage is now in the mix so