Author Topic: [nEWS} children taken away if you don't accept their gender  (Read 7349 times)

If my child was autistic and i refused to acknowledge their mental differences even if it's been medically determined then that's legally child neglect. Canada's just trying to be consistent and some conservatives here are throwing a fit because a country with their own freedom to decide laws is going against their viewpoint
It's also child abuse to let a child mutilate their body because of a choice they made on a whim.

Or, if they don't want surgery, this is the home equivalent of firing someone for not using your "preferred pronouns."

Either way its jumping the gun, and its not the same as not accepting a mental disorder, its more like not being allowed to accept a mental disorder and forcing people to bend reality so their children can live a fantasy.
Either way it's been medically and scientifically proven that gender is a social definition so i doubt that it falls into the category of a mental difference anymore.
Source?
(No, buzzfeed isn't a reliable source.)
The illusion most of the civilized world and scientific community acknowledges is true. If you want to play pretend and act like there aren't more than two genders that's fine, but nobody is going to pander to your refusal to accept the truth. Life moves on.
You may think there are 47 genders, but in reality that's just how many chromosomes you have.

i mean, i don't think they're saying "LET YOUR KID CHOP HIS richard OFF"

i think it's more of: "if your child feels a certain way, don't just completely ignore it"

It's also child abuse to let a child mutilate their body because of a choice they made on a whim.
Is it child abuse to acknowledge a child's identity too because you seem to think that accepting gender and mutilating body parts are the same thing

Source?
http://www.who.int/gender-equity-rights/understanding/gender-definition/en/
these are the same people that provide abstracts on malaria and ebola in africa and are essentially responsible for raising awareness for every known disease and health issue that plagues humanity. if you fight against WHO's credibility you might as well be saying that vaccines give you autism

Either way its jumping the gun, and its not the same as not accepting a mental disorder, its more like not being allowed to accept a mental disorder and forcing people to bend reality so their children can live a fantasy.
the only people bending reality would be the people that deny that gender is a social construct
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 08:46:54 AM by PhantOS »

Is it child abuse to acknowledge a child's identity too because you seem to think that accepting gender and mutilating body parts are the same thing
http://www.who.int/gender-equity-rights/understanding/gender-definition/en/
the only people bending reality would be the people that deny that gender is a social construct
Unless you can prove that snakees and pussies are manufactured, then gender is not a social construct.

Unless you can prove that snakees and pussies are manufactured, then gender is not a social construct.
Gender has nothing to do with your genitalia and the fact that you're trying to make up your own definition is hilarious.

Leave it to you to make up your own rules and shame people for not abiding by them. You sound just like a libtard
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 08:56:34 AM by PhantOS »

So far your only argument is "gender and love are the same thing" which is objectively incorrect. Fortunately, the civilized world bases its laws around proven facts nowadays and not 4chan opinions, which is why laws in several countries acknowledge the definition of gender.

If you want to fight against it so bad and play pretend, go move back into the 18th century or some stuff. Until you invent a time machine, you won't be able to selectively dictate what facts are true and false

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The distinction between love and gender differentiates love (the anatomy of an individual's reproductive system, and secondary love characteristics) from gender, which can refer to either social roles based on the love of the person (gender role) or personal identification of one's own gender based on an internal awareness (gender identity).
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 08:53:05 AM by PhantOS »


The illusion most of the civilized world and scientific community acknowledges is true. If you want to play pretend and act like there are more than two genders that's fine, but nobody is going to pander to your refusal to accept the truth. Life moves on.

ftfy

the idea of nonbinary genders exists only in social sciences (not an exact science) and tumblrina fantasy lands. If you cannot transition to your gender, it is made up. No, gender and love are not the same thing, but that doesn't mean gender exists on a spectrum. You are free to bang your head against the brick wall of science and fact all you want, but don't call us idiots when you're the one with the concussion.
if you fight against WHO's credibility you might as well be saying that vaccines give you autism
the only people bending reality would be the people that deny that gender is a social construct

1. MMMMM that sweet appeal to authority
2. Gender itself is not a social construct. Male and female cannot be changed on society's whim. What can be changed are their roles, and how masculinity and femininity are perceived.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 09:36:43 AM by Deus Ex »

the idea of nonbinary genders exists only in social sciences (not an exact science)
Social science isn't an exact science? The forget is this supposed to mean? Are you saying the entire field that studies how humans interact with each other and form societies is just a made up science? That's if i said "rain exists only in meteorology but it's not an exact science so rain doesn't exist". Maybe i'm misinterpreting this wrong and you're saying that social science is a broad category of other sciences, and in that case, nonbinary genders exist in demography, sociology and to some extent psychology.

Autism aside, you're essentially saying "nonbinary genders exist in the only science that studies human interaction and societal patterns, the only field of study that would have credibility on the mater" but i guess if it's not a real science it wouldn't matter to you anyways

1. MMMMM that sweet appeal to authority
i had this same issue with corderlain. since he can't argue against a credible source, his only tactic is to either say it's a liberal fake or to blame me for using a credible source. i guess you're doing the latter

anyways, WHO has scientists and professors around the world that publish thousands of abstracts every day, they work with millions of people to tackle health and societal issues. if you're going to just selectively say 'they're right on everything except this thing i dont agree with' then you're essentially throwing consistency out the window. They could be wrong on a number of things, but an agency that has a need to handle health information at such a high magnitude would have such an unlikely chance of being incorrect on the matter, and if they are they've probably revised it by now

2. Gender itself is not a social construct. Male and female cannot be changed on society's whim. What can be changed are their roles, and how masculinity and femininity are perceived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)
this is half gender being defined by society and half masculinity and femininity being defined by society. They both go hand in hand anyways, since masculinity and femininity are part of gender identification. You're essentially trying to prove me wrong but in reality you're just proving me right on a certain aspect. I do agree on the fact that gender roles are defined by society, but most institutions recognize that as an offshoot of gender identification, and it falls in the same category

Gender is just a definition, it doesn't exist until we give it meaning. The meaning most if not all of the scientific community have given it is a set of societal definitions that affect how people identify. It changes from society to society, so it's not just Male & female all around, people in different countries have a different definition of those roles in their society. Either way, more than two genders can exist, and it already does in some countries like india. Just because it doesn't fit your extremely narrow criteria doesn't mean that it's factually incorrect
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 10:11:03 AM by PhantOS »

yknow this discussion is super cool and all,,,

But What If The Kid Had A snake And Vagina ? ? ?

If you're born with a vagina or egg producing reproductive organs, you're female. Female love characteristics take priority over male, which is why it's physically impossible to be born a male with female characteristics, but you can be born female with male characteristics

It's why hermaphrodites are girls, not boys. Though biologically speaking, they are neither male or female but just possess dominantly female characteristics. Or maybe their genitalia development failed
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 10:18:53 AM by PhantOS »

If you're born with a vagina or egg producing reproductive organs, you're female. Female love characteristics take priority over male, which is why it's physically impossible to be born a male with female characteristics, but you can be born female with male characteristics

It's why hermaphrodites are girls, not boys


so is this why people say liking futa hentai isnt gay???


because like it totally is

i mean, would masturbating to boys with vaginas be gay?

because like it totally is
i mean we all touch our snakees like 20 times a day, there's nothing gay about touching a girls snake

i mean, would masturbating to boys with vaginas be gay?

yes
unless you say no homo, of course


i mean we all touch our snakees like 20 times a day, there's nothing gay about touching a girls snake
it's still a richard



i mean, would masturbating to boys with vaginas be gay?
this really makes me think