Author Topic: The "The Last Night" stuffshow  (Read 4630 times)

Sargon sums it up pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ej3xzPLGc

Quote from: Sources
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/12/e3-game-developer-gets-flamed-on-twitter-for-not-being-feminist/

https://heatst.com/gaming/feminist-zoe-quinn-bullies-the-last-night-game-developer-for-criticizing-social-justice/

https://www.inverse.com/article/32837-the-last-night-xbox-gamergate-tim-soret-feminism

Here is the trailer to "The Last Night", the game in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pupdeq1MoVw

The game looks great, yeah? It was trending massively on Twitter after it got released:
https://twitter.com/JoeKataldo/status/874043369395167232

Unfortunately, the reasons it was trending may have less to do with the game's success than with other, more toxic reasons.

Uh-oh.

Yep. Tim Soret, the creator and director of the game, was a part of #GamerGate three years ago. And he tweeted some stuff some people wouldn't like.


He also had some words to say about Anita Sarkeesian and her show:
https://archive.is/o/7MGVR/https://www.idlethumbs.net/forums/topic/9728-cyberpunk-cop-killah-aka-the-last-night/?do=findComment&comment=324938

Even better, here's what the plot of the game was rumored to be about:
Quote from: Inverse
As for Soret and The Last Night, it’s the creator’s views coupled with the misguided cyberpunk setting in his new game that’s garnering criticism. While cyberpunk as a genre is often a critique of capitalism, in The Last Night, it’s against people. In The Last Night, players take control of a disillusioned character named Charlie who seeks to rebel against Socialist ideals such as universal income and leisure time afforded by automation. (The game’s Steam page contained a summary directly referring to universal income, but it has since been edited out.)

That’s not all, however. A few years ago, Soret (again, on Twitter) described his new game as a warning against “extreme progressivism,” portraying a dark world where “modern feminism won, instead of egalitarianism.”

“Our game The Last Night will take place in a cyberpunk world where modern feminism won, instead of egalitarianism,” wrote Soret in his now-deleted tweets — archived by the internet — with the hashtags #gamergate and #notyourshield. “I find it interesting to show the danger of extreme progressivism, in the background of the game, the characters, and the story. Finally, we’ll have another take on the cyberpunk oppression instead of Big Brother/1984/HAL/big companies. What if the surveillance, bullying, marginalization won’t come from governments but from the Internet?”

So now it's time for our resident stuff-stirrer and DDoS'er Zoe Quinn to get involved!



And what happens next? Take a guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIG2Y4h_NQ
Quote from: Raw Fury, game publisher
We at Raw Fury believe in equality, believe in feminism, and believe everyone has a right and chance at the equal pursuit of happiness. We would not be working with Tim Soret / Odd Tales at all if we believed they were against these principles in any aspect.
 
The wording of his statements toward feminism in 2014 was poor, and his buying into GamerGate as a movement on the notion that it represented gamers against journalists was naive, but in the same year he also cheered the rise of women in gaming.

In a similar situation as the one happening now, folks on the IdleThumbs forums found questionable tweets and Tim took it upon himself to address them. What came from that was a dialogue where different viewpoints were considered and debated in a purposeful way.
 
A lot can change in three years, including viewpoints, and Tim has assured us that The Last Night does not spout a message steeped in regressive stances. We trust Tim and know that he is an advocate for progression both in and outside of our industry, and we hope that this will be apparent moving forward.

So basically, a stuffshow of regressives and progressives and #GamerGate and all of it sums up to a potentially good game with an interesting story getting altered or canned all together. Great.

forgetin' /discuss

SARGON OF AKKAD IS A child enthusiast


typical master matthew, posting in threads


typical master matthew, posting in threads
Why do I feel like these threads have become an Irony contest?

SARGON OF AKKAD IS A child enthusiast

it was a fake video lol

wait why am I replying to you


i hope zoe quinn gets dropkicked by a race horse



how can ppl still take sargon seriously......

Why do I feel like these threads have become an Irony contest?
master matthew, breathing as per usual
why do you always do that in these threads

correction, game looks fukin DOPE
Yeah I do like the pop-up book aesthetic it has going on in combination with the shadows and shaders that are being used. Gives it a pleasing art style that matches the mood the game is trying to go for.

This is a bit off-topic but I've wanted to talk about it, especially when people cite this guy. Sargon did an interview on The Drunken Peasants (the podcast that did the infamous child enthusiast interview with Milo) a few weeks ago and it really made me lose all respect for him. He's such a confident and arrogant guy when he talks on his own channel but when they tried to discuss things he's said with him he dodged and squirmed away from literally everything. They asked him if he was a Annoying Orange supporter. He said "I... Uh... I... dont know." They asked him if Global Warming was real, he said "I don't know, I uh, I don't think I'm qualified to say..." They asked him literally all sorts of things--things he's acted as though he's an expert on--and he squirmed away and backpedaled on all of them. I was really shocked to see what a little bitch he turns out to be when you actually try to argue with him. I never hated him or anything but god-damn he's a spineless little girl. I dunno, I don't think I could credibly watch someone after that. If you can't debate, don't offer to go on someone's show and debate them.
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