Author Topic: Blockland Apocalypse Contingency Plan  (Read 3689 times)

Forgive the dramatic title. It's mostly for comedic effect.

But in all seriousness...

For awhile, I have been wondering what we would do if the Blockland forums or its master servers went down for whatever reason (say, hypothetically, that the game wasn't enough money to keep these services running). Given the recent failure the forums faced, this thought has been fresh in my mind. So here is a list of things I want to discuss here:
  • Should we archive the forums? Has anyone started doing so already?
  • Where would the community migrate? I have seen a few Blockland related forums here and there. But all of them are sparsely populated, if not dead. There's also the Reddit and Steam discussion. But do we, as a community, feel these would be appropriate substitutes?
  • How could we preserve as much of the community as possible?
  • How would we create and distribute the IP for a new master server? I assume it would be rather easy to get one running. If I recall correctly, I have already seen a few before. My concern, however, is how we would communicate the IP for this game to other players, making sure that as many people as possible are using it.
  • How would you all feel about creating an open-source clone as a preemptive solution? This could also give the community far more control over the destiny of the game, and allow us to make change to the game Badspot doesn't seem to care enough to make. (This may be a topic deserving of it's own thread.)

This isn't something I would expect to be an issue for almost a decade or longer. But I think it's good that we think of these things sooner than later. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have grown up with this game. I have been playing it for about a decade, and I do not see myself leaving it anytime soon. I want to do whatever I can to preserve it and its community.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2017, 12:59:49 AM by Platypi »

...and allow us to make change to the game Badspot doesn't seem to care enough to make.

I wouldn't say he doesn't care enough to make changes to the game, most if not all the changes aren't easy to make and quite frankly aren't necessary, especially coming from someone who doesn't owe you anything at all. He just brought the forums back for the sake of the community that still exists, he literally could've just said "forget it" and just left it dead.

I wouldn't say he doesn't care enough to make changes to the game, most if not all the changes aren't easy to make and quite frankly aren't necessary, especially coming from someone who doesn't owe you anything at all. He just brought the forums back for the sake of the community that still exists, he literally could've just said "forget it" and just left it dead.
I don't mean any disrespect towards Eric Hartman himself. I am very appreciative of what work he has done, and I totally understand if he doesn't want to give Blockland any attention any more. It's been over a decade since he initially created this game. Any creative person would be burnt out by this point. I would completely respect his decision for abandon the game, should it come to that. The fact that he still gives any stuffs about this game and its community after this long is admirable. I have no personal vendetta against Eric, nor do I think he owes me anything.

Eric shouldn't have to keep this game running forever. I--and I hope others too--want to do what I can to keep this game going, and perhaps breath some new life into it.

most if not all the changes aren't easy to make and quite frankly aren't necessary
I hear you. Vehicle physics are a prime example of this. The issues we see with them are pretty much intrinsic to the engine. But that is precisely the kind of problem that could be fixed by recreating with a newer, better game engine.

And just because a change isn't "necessary", that doesn't mean it wouldn't improve the game. For instance, I think it would be great if things like Slayer and various brickpacks were built into the game, despite being unnecessary.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2017, 01:21:38 AM by Platypi »

My main concern is how would I salvage my years of Blockland creations. I'm not so worried about the community.

My main concern is how would I salvage my years of Blockland creations. I'm not so worried about the community.
Do you mean your builds, add-ons, or both?

Also, out of curiosity, what would be the point of salvaging your creations if there was no community to share them with?
« Last Edit: June 28, 2017, 01:26:30 AM by Platypi »

Do you mean your builds, add-ons, or both?

Also, out of curiosity, what would be the point of salvaging your creations if there was not community to share them with?

Yes mostly both.

Well, where I'm headed I can recycle all my models and addons since Im gearing to be a game asset creator. Id like to someday convert my builds into another format to build a new project. (And yes, Im serious. I already have my associates in game development and computer science)
Basically, utilize all my old work into a portfolio ready format.

Yes mostly both.

Well, where I'm headed I can recycle all my models and addons since Im gearing to be a game asset creator. Id like to someday convert my builds into another format to build a new project. (And yes, Im serious. I already have my associates in game development and computer science)
Basically, utilize all my old work into a portfolio ready format.
Oh, I see. Do you have any work unrelated to Blockland posted anywhere for viewing?

Oh, I see. Do you have any work unrelated to Blockland posted anywhere for viewing?

Only assets. Id have to dig them up.
So basically no.


How would you all feel about creating an open-source clone as a preemptive solution? This could also give the community far more control over the destiny of the game, and allow us to make change to the game Badspot doesn't seem to care enough to make. (This may be a topic deserving of it's own thread.)[/li][/list]
that would be very rude to badspot
and a few legal issues, since you don't own the IP to BL

we must construct a vault and live underground for 500 years

that would be very rude to badspot
I worry it would come off this way, yes. My intention certainly isn't to take money away from Eric. But if the game is dieing anyway due to negligence/boredom/age, I don't really feel there is much else we can do to save the game. I would hope that Eric would understand the community's desire to prolong the lifetime of the game in spite of his lack of interest in it. But at the end of the day, my appreciation for the creation precedes my appreciation for the creator. Perhaps others don't feel the same, though. Again, no hate towards Eric. It would be great to get his blessings for this project, should it ever commence.

and a few legal issues, since you don't own the IP to BL
Obviously we'd have to change the look of the game. It being open source would hopefully eliminate some legal issues, as long as no one tries to sell it. The point of the "clone" would not be simply to rip off the game, but also to add to and improve it.

a common trait shared among all forums is that without the shared interest they die, forums do not prosper in a void. the community would dissipate with the remnants taking the form of numerous discords (that would also die after a while unless they find another source of members) and loosely linked steam friends lists indicating some former connection of significance
« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 02:48:23 AM by DestroyerOfBlocks »

a common trait shared among all forums is that without the shared interest they die, forums do not prosper in a void. the community would dissipate with the remnants taking the form of numerous discords (that would also die after a while unless they find another source of members) and loosely linked steam friends lists indicating some former connection of significance
Yeah... I worry that by the time the forum dies, there won't be enough of a community left to successfully create a new forum.

Steam forums bro

  • Should we archive the forums? Has anyone started doing so already?

Archive the add-ons and mod discussion board. The sooner Off-Topic and Drama is nuked the better