No like if you look in that thread nonnel was being even worse than Kimon.
beachbum i respect your opinion but you should know that he wasn't that bad, he's not in denial for pages and pages through until he breaks out (like what kimon did), or shove in his views of communism against everyone.
the incident he had was a bit laughable i admit but we've seen far far worse from kimon if you wanna compare that aspect