Another statue was taken down... this time forcibly

[Shift Kitty]

oh ok so I guess you'd be okay if we bulldozed Auschwitz and the Japanese internment camps

because surely that stuff happening is still told in books so no one in the world believes driving a car through those sites changes that amirite

go right ahead



also lol @ honoring the fallen

"hey we had some very important people in our times. this guy, for instance, was quite an expert in those times where we were killing each other in our own land. it's a shame he had to go"

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[Nonnel]

oh ok so I guess you'd be okay if we bulldozed Auschwitz and the Japanese internment camps

because surely that stuff happening is still told in books so no one in the world believes driving a car through those sites changes that amirite

Those are memorials respecting the victims of the practices. If these were memorials for slaves; Harriet Tubman, Fredrick Douglass, etc.; everyone would be complaining about removal.

These statues aren't respecting the victims, they're commemorating the people who allowed slavery to stay in place for so long, and who fought to make it the law of the land.
It's absolutely ridiculous and it's no wonder these cities wouldn't want these giant statues sitting out in the open because it's going to make people identify the city with the values of that person. That's why there is a push to move them out of the public eye and into storage or museums where they can be put into proper context.

[LeisureSuit912]

we should just remove everything that stuffty people in the past have done.
like buddhist statues, and ancient pyramids because they represent bullstuff religions. and just remove longform history and replace it with footnote insults of past people.

cultural marxism is awesome.
we should force acceptance so hard, that we will go full circle and not accept people.

"Cultural marxism" lol are you kidding me

[Tactical Nuke]

also lol @ honoring the fallen

haha ikr respecting your enemies I mean who does that lol

Those are memorials respecting the victims of the practices. If these were memorials for slaves; Harriet Tubman, Fredrick Douglass, etc.; everyone would be complaining about removal.

so how is a memorial for fallen soldiers not respecting the victims of a civil war?

These statues aren't respecting the victims, they're commemorating the people who allowed slavery to stay in place for so long, and who fought to make it the law of the land.
It's absolutely ridiculous and it's no wonder these cities wouldn't want these giant statues sitting out in the open because it's going to make people identify the city with the values of that person. That's why there is a push to move them out of the public eye and into storage or museums where they can be put into proper context.

only 6% of the south owned slaves at the time of the civil war so saying they all fought for slavery is painting way too broad of a stroke on the people who were killed
maybe they fought because all the people they knew were fighting too and they couldn't bring themselves to kill their fathers and brothers and friends?

[King Tøny]

These statues aren't respecting the victims, they're commemorating the people who allowed slavery to stay in place for so long, and who fought to make it the law of the land.

The confederates died for this country just like unions did.

The average confederate soldier did not own slaves.

The confederates died for this country for what they believed was right.

There is no good/bad here. Each side did what they felt was right to them. Besides the union didn't care about slavery, they just knew it would forget businesses over. lol

[LeisureSuit912]

The confederates died for this country for what they believed was right.

Yeah, and what they believed was right was slavery

Knock these statues down

[King Tøny]

Yeah, and what they believed was right was slavery

Knock these statues down

K let's knock these pyramids down.

forget the egyptians.

[Insert Name Here²]

Knock these statues down

Literally supporting vandalism because "his opinions are different than mine!"

You're a loving child

[Tactical Nuke]

let's knock down everything that ever involved slaves

I mean who even likes the white house

[LeisureSuit912]

K let's knock these pyramids down.

forget the egyptians.

let's knock down everything that ever involved slaves

I mean who even likes the white house

Who knows what progress would be made if we took every argument ever to it's logical extreme

Literally supporting vandalism because "his opinions are different than mine!"

You're a loving child

Anybody who is this upset about a Confederate statue being knocked down is the child

[Insert Name Here²]

Anybody who is this upset about a Confederate statue being knocked down is the child

Apparently disliking people who actively support vandalizing and destroying stuff because of "muh feelingz" is childlike

Are you trolling?

[otto-san]

only 6% of the south owned slaves at the time of the civil war so saying they all fought for slavery is painting way too broad of a stroke on the people who were killed
maybe they fought because all the people they knew were fighting too and they couldn't bring themselves to kill their fathers and brothers and friends?

couldn't you say the same thing for literally any war ever? everyone who fights in wars is human, even those who fought in wars that were waged for the most gruesome and immoral reasons. those soldiers aren't victims, they were tools used by the state to fight for the right to oppress. there's nothing wrong with respecting soldiers, but you can respect and remember the less-glamorous parts of history without glorifying them and celebrating figures that represent those reasons. after WWII, national socialist statues and monuments were destroyed or removed because they represented the ideas of that state and celebrated them, and it would be disrespectful to the real victims of WWII if we remembered them by celebrating the soldiers who fought to keep those concentration camps running.

[Tactical Nuke]

Who knows what progress would be made if we took every argument ever to it's logical extreme

Anybody who is this upset about a Confederate statue being knocked down is the child

Who knows what progress would be made if we took every argument ever to it's logical extreme

[LeisureSuit912]

Apparently disliking people who actively support vandalizing and destroying stuff because of "muh feelingz" is childlike

Are you trolling?

Totally not the reactionaries that are whining about some statues being torn down that are going "muh fee-fees"

[Insert Name Here²]

Totally not the reactionaries that are whining about some statues being torn down that are going "muh fee-fees"

this guy legit thinks tearing down buildings because of his feelings being hurt is justify able