Author Topic: Lady of the Flies: Cat Fight Edition  (Read 1186 times)




coming up next: Groomsmen, the all-male Bridesmaids remake

just loving kidding because Hollywood can't be THAT self-aware

i dont like it because the kids being guys was a big point the book made

its sad because they can really turn this into something interesting but op is essentially:



i dont like it because the kids being guys was a big point the book made
the whole point of the book was to display how vulnerable children are to unhealthy behavior projected onto them by their parents and other adults they see around them. them being boys is definitely important to the message too but its a secondary plot device, you could definitely pull it off with women

they'd probably turn the island into a reality television show where they argue about what leaf dresses make their butt look big and then catfight occasionally
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i dont like it because the kids being guys was a big point the book made
yea it was actually plot relevant tbh

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because the all-female ghostbusters reboot that was made specifically so it could be all-female was groundbreaking and an interesting watch

the kids being guys was a big point the book made

because the all-female ghostbusters reboot that was made specifically so it could be all-female was groundbreaking and an interesting watch
it wasn't better than the old movies but it definitely wasn't awful. you shouldn't be so contrary to new ideas just because they are 'different' or made for a certain purpose

I've always hopes for a Lord of the Flies movie that didn't suck rooster like the original so I'll probably watch this anyway but it seems kinda hamfisted

i mean, i dont blame these guys for trying to make the story their own way. it's probably really boring to be an artist whose job is to duplicate something. if it's meant to be faithful to the book like the article says i dont see why this is an issue yet anyway. i think you're jumping the gun by being upset over this OP, there's like no info about the movie yet. lets see how it turns out.

"Girls say to me, very reasonably, 'why isn't it a bunch of girls? Why did you write this about a bunch of boys?' Well, my reply is I was once a little boy - I have been a brother, a father, I am going to be a grandfather. I have never been a sister, or a mother, or a grandmother. That's one answer. Another answer is of course to say that if you - as it were - scaled down human beings, scaled down society, if you land with a group of little boys, they are more ike a scaled-down version of society than a group of little girls would be. Don't ask me why, and this is a terrible thing to say because I'm going to be chased from hell to breakfast by all the women who talk about equality - this is nothing to do with equality at all. I think women are foolish to pretend they are equal to men, they are far superior and always have been. But one thing you can't do with them is take a bunch of them and boil them down, so to speak, into a set of little girls who would then become a kind of image of civilisation, of society. The other thing is - why aren't they little boys AND little girls? Well, if they'd been little boys and little girls, we being who we are, love would have raised its lovely head, and I didn't want this to be about love. love is too trivial a thing to get in with a story like this, which was about the problem of evil and the problem of how people are to live together in a society, not just as lovers or man and wife."

-- william goulding, author of "lord of the flies"

socialization of girls is a lot more equal to boys than when the book was written so i'd imagine it can be applied well
or i guess that depends: is this happening in 1954 or 2017?


the issue with switching gender roles for movies isn't "oh it's a girl leading and thats wrong," it's seriously just that they're completely making a big deal about "oh it's a minority leading and the guys in the movie are so dumb"
they're trying to milk a certain demographic for little effort rather than actually putting effort into making a good plot and great character development. an example that switches gender roles but still makes it work damn well is elementary, a parody of sherlock holmes where they made watson a girl---however it's still nice plot and a well made show in general. they don't force the female lead down your throat but it's still there and they actually made it work (ghostbusters and all that was the polar opposite)

i mean i guess they could pull it off with girls for lord of the flies but the plot of the book just doesn't match up, and there would always feel like something is missing in it; the deal of lord of the flies is that it actually reflects back onto stereotypical teenage boys in a sort of eerie manner, with an interesting plot completely revolving around and spinning back to that stereotype. i dunno but i just can't see a substantial girls doing the same stuff that happened in that book as opposed to a regular school