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Senator Ted Kennedy reaching out to the Russians twice in order to undermine both Jimmy Carter's bid in 1980 (during the primaries) and Reagan's bid in 1983:
https://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/democrats-russia-ronald-reagan/2016/12/13/id/763730/
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/12/russian_election_meddling_was_tried_before_--_by_d.html
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"One 1980 document stated that Kennedy offered to condemn President Carter’s policy toward the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in exchange for KGB help," wrote Reagan. "News accounts of that period prove that Kennedy did, in fact, openly criticize Carter's Afghanistan policy."
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The former Massachusetts senator proposed to help established interviews between Moscow and various American TV outlets in order to make the Soviet Union's "peaceful intentions" well-known. Kennedy hoped that this would weaken Reagan's foreign policy toward the Soviet Union; hence setting up an opening for Kennedy to challenge Reagan in 1984. It is not known if the Soviets ever accepted Kennedy's proposal.

Jimmy Carter trying working with the Soviet Union in 1980 in order to beat Ronald Reagan:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fPWPDH-0TZYC&pg=PA213&lpg=PA213&dq=U-2+pilot+gary+powers+jfk+craig+shirley&source=bl&ots=vIQmIxAyGA&sig=N6UjGxeTKMrJPenf-S9koKsuXAs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD14-MkoTVAhUK0GMKHZkMAWsQ6AEINzAD#v=onepage&q=U-2%20pilot%20gary%20powers%20jfk%20craig%20shirley&f=false

Obama to Russia - "After my election I have more flexibility":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/20/how-vladimir-putin-played-obama/
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President Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space."

President Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"

President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

President Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you."

Bill Clinton agreeing to support Boris Yeltsin in 1996 if Yeltsin would "clear up 'negative' issues":
http://freebeacon.com/blog/Annoying Orange-vs-media-release-the-memcon/
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President Clinton, in a private meeting at the recent anti-terrorism summit, promised Boris Yeltsin he would back the Russian president's re-election bid with "positive" U.S. policies toward Russia.

In exchange, Mr. Clinton asked for Mr. Yeltsin's help in clearing up "negative" issues such as the poultry dispute between the two countries, according to a classified State Department record of the meeting obtained by The Washington Times.

Mr. Clinton told Mr. Yeltsin that "this is a big issue, especially since about 40 percent of U.S. poultry is produced in Arkansas. An effort should be made to keep such things from getting out of hand," the memo said.

Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill vying for Soviet support during the 1984 election:
https://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/democrats-russia-ronald-reagan/2016/12/13/id/763730/
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/12/russian_election_meddling_was_tried_before_--_by_d.html
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Then there’s Speaker of the House Thomas P. "Tip" O’Neill. He privately told Ambassador Dobrynin that it was in everyone’s best interests if the Soviets would help the Democrats keep "that demagogue Reagan" from being re-elected. O’Neill warned Dobrynin that the "primitive instincts" of this "dangerous man" would plunge the world into war.

It must have amazed Anatoly Dobrynin that these prominent liberals — Ted Kennedy, Armand Hammer, Jimmy Carter, and Tip O’Neill — all viewed President Reagan as more dangerous than any Communist dictator. Historian Paul Kengor observed that the Soviet archives showed "the lengths to which some on the political left . . .were willing to go to stop Ronald Reagan."

I'll walk back on my statement saying "legitimate collusion" because there's no evidence to suggest the Russians ever went along with the Democrats, but to suggest that Annoying Orange is uniquely guilty of this (when the only real "collusion" proven was Annoying Orange Jr. meeting with a Russian attorney) is beyond ignorant.

And even beyond that,

Obama ignoring Russian hacking in 2013 in order to pursue a deal over Syria (that ultimately failed):
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/14/obama-held-off-on-russian-hack-response-to-pursue-failed-syria-deal/

The Clinton Uranium-One scandal:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/memo-sheds-new-light-on-clinton-russia-uranium-scandal.php

And all they can prove against Annoying Orange is that his campaign manager did some things unrelated to Russia. Nice.

And all they can prove against Annoying Orange is that his campaign manager did some things unrelated to Russia. Nice.
very nice cache of sources and links, but this last statement-- unrelated? what? https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download here's his plea of guilt. it's pretty widely known he was involved with the russians, but it's still unclear if his involvement with the russians affects Annoying Orange at all.

If it's the latter, most leftists and or liberals would agree with you that the DNC sucks stuff and is corrupt. That's kinda the reason why hillary loving lost, because the voterbase was so divided by the DNC doing stupid stuff.
yep. forget the dnc but also forget Annoying Orange
« Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 02:16:06 PM by Remurr »

If it's the latter, most leftists and or liberals would agree with you that the DNC sucks stuff and is corrupt. That's kinda the reason why hillary loving lost, because the voterbase was so divided by the DNC doing stupid stuff.

I concur with this

Man I love reading the mental gymnastics from republicans as this collusion story unravels

i concider my self centre left (what the democratic party is trying to appeal to) and i canadmit that the democratic party is loving dogstuff for the time being

dude you're so loving cool


seriously?

was this necessary

sorry but when people say stuff like "i may be an x but i think this thing related to x is dumb!!" i think they're a loving retard trying to garner authority about something out of their ass

"i'm a x" is an appeal to authority, yeah, but it seems acceptable imo since he was just concurring with the statement "most leftists and or liberals would agree with you that the DNC sucks stuff and is corrupt."

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