Author Topic: Net neutrality shenanigins are happening.  (Read 27040 times)

Pave the way for more diverse selection of local ISP's with competitive prices and speeds.
so essentially:
"repealing net neutrality will let ISPs screw over customers more, increasing profit, which makes the industry more competitive"

Deregulate and break apart monopolies. Easy as that.

Deregulate and break apart monopolies. Easy as that.
You seem to have a very confusing double standard here. You want the government to stop regulating, e.g. sit back and do nothing; but you still want them to break up monopolies?

Deregulate
You keep saying this, but net neutrality doesn't loving reinforce monopolies. The fact that you don't realize this is absolutely mind boggling.
Yes, SOME regulations DO reinforce monopolies. No, NOT all regulations do. Holy loving stuff.

break apart monopolies
We can agree on that, but that would require government intervention, and - GET THIS - regulation. I thought you said governments shouldn't do that? Again, you're being inconsistent. On the one hand, you only want the government to protect people from each other when it involves physical violence. On the other, you want the government to break up monopolies.

And thinking the GOP is going to break up monopolies is... wishful thinking at best. The Democrats aren't perfect, but they're way more likely to trust-bust than the GOP.
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so your solution is "dont do this because theres a better option" even if the better option would be a helluva lot harder?

break apart monopolies.
yea sure that'd work. who do you think's gonna do it though? the same people who've been doing it for the past 20 years? oh, wait........

yea sure that'd work. who do you think's gonna do it though? the same people who've been doing it for the past 20 years? oh, wait........
theodore roosevelt comes back from the dead

Deregulate and break apart monopolies. Easy as that.
man you are literally dumb as stuff

breaking apart monopolies is regulation. there is no such thing as busting up a monopoly that doesn't involve government influence. the natural state of certain industries is to exist as a monopoly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act

what if we nuke the white people this time? ...

okay so someone explain how the "current" neutrality laws prevents monopolies

oh wait oops it doesn't

okay so someone explain how the "current" neutrality laws prevents monopolies

oh wait oops it doesn't
i dont think anyone is claiming that

okay so someone explain how the "current" neutrality laws prevents monopolies

oh wait oops it doesn't
It doesn't, but that's the whole point. ISPs are natural monopolies, meaning it would be extremely expensive and impractical to make every region economically-competitive.

You ever wondered why stuff like water and electrical utilities don't seem to pull the same kind of price-gouging, evil-corporate bullstuff that a lot of other industries do? It's because they legally can't. Natural monopolies are highly regulated because there's a high profit incentive for them to do things which are severely at odds to public good.

okay so someone explain how the "current" neutrality laws prevents monopolies
oh wait oops it doesn't
who the fuk said it does man? cordo is supposing that repealing them helps to get rid of them; nobody said that keeping it does

okay so someone explain how the "current" neutrality laws prevents monopolies

oh wait oops it doesn't
are you serious
nobody was saying it prevents monopolies; it just doesn't cause monopolies, as corderain is arguing

but hey, you want an answer as to why net neutrality can promote competition? fine, why not. an ISP could limit access to competitors' websites and services, or if one ISP is much larger than a competitor, and if they were feeling especially richardish, they could throttle traffic between the two ISPs. people using the smaller ISP would be unsatisfied with a large quantity of slow connections, even though it's not their ISP's fault, so they are likely to switch; on the other hand, people using the larger ISP are unlikely to notice, since the other ISP is much smaller. and if they DO notice, they might even blame the smaller ISP.

i'm not saying this WILL happen, but without net neutrality, they could do it
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okay so someone explain how the "current" neutrality laws prevents monopolies

oh wait oops it doesn't
it doesn't but it does prevent internet from becoming a cable situation where the provider has full control over the content that you're accessing and abuses that power to nickel-and-dime you all the way to your favorite websites