should pitbulls be banned

[Shift Kitty]

good thing 90% of trained dogs don't do this

90% is even too low. That would imply that there's only roughly 4000 dogs that existed in the last 13 years, or if only accounting for pitbulls... that would be 2800. I'm certain there's probably more than that alive at the moment let alone the past 13 years.

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[Goth77]

no, it's the owner's fault for being negligent

when some kid finds daddy's shotgun in an unlocked safe and accidentally shoots himself, who's responsible?

no stuff, but what if it was locked and the kid forced their way into the safe? Or stole the key and unlocked it himself? Then who is responsible? Furthermore, we are talking about an animal enclosed in an outside yard that could potentially escape without the owner knowing, not about a parent who owns guns and has young children in the home. If your going to make brown townogies at least make them viable

[Ceist]

no they shouldn't be banned. pretty much most of the "statistics" pulled up in this thread that say otherwise are bogus.

also master matthew is a moron. you have literally no clue or meaning behind any post you've made in the thead thus far.

[Figure]

nah, they're just treated into being pieces of stuff by piece of stuff people

[PowerDag]

no stuff, but what if it was locked and the kid forced their way into the safe? Or stole the key and unlocked it himself? Then who is responsible?

the parent is still responsible for negligence if they allowed the key to be findable enough that the child could just take it and go kurt cobaining themselves.  no child would ever be capable of forcing themselves into a decent safe without the tools and time to do so, or the safe is so phenomenally stuffty that a light breeze would crack it open.  again, negligence of the parent.  but please, do continue building ultra-specific scenarios to get the answers you want.

Furthermore, we are talking about an animal enclosed in an outside yard that could potentially escape without the owner knowing, not about a parent who owns guns and has young children in the home. If your going to make brown townogies at least make them viable

unlike comparing a dog and a gun, a dog and a small child compare quite well -- both are unpredictable, living elements that you have to generally manage and not neglect.  you don't want your child getting into the gun case, so you make sure to keep the keys away from them, make sure the case is secure, and generally teach them to stay safe.  you don't want your dog getting out of the yard, so you make sure your fence is high enough, you get a decent leash, and you generally train your dog well.  both scenarios, outside of an infiniteismal minority of super-specific cases, can easily be kept safe by being generally aware and responsible as the person who owns either.

[Bisjac]

yes, because they ugly.

[Figure]

pie crust just drowned in his own cum

[Woof]

Pitbulls aren't aggressive. stuffty and psychopathic owners make them aggressive

[Goth77]

the parent is still responsible for negligence if they allowed the key to be findable enough that the child could just take it and go kurt cobaining themselves.  no child would ever be capable of forcing themselves into a decent safe without the tools and time to do so, or the safe is so phenomenally stuffty that a light breeze would crack it open.  again, negligence of the parent.  but please, do continue building ultra-specific scenarios to get the answers you want.

I'm not building ultra-specific scenarios (unless you consider a dog digging under a fence ultra specific). You do understand that dogs can dig under fences, right? That means it could escape without the owner knowing, and go bite someone if it wasn't on a leash, which some owners do not do if their yard is fenced in. Hence why I asked to begin with why the dog in torins link was not on a leash.

unlike comparing a dog and a gun, a dog and a small child compare quite well -- both are unpredictable, living elements that you have to generally manage and not neglect.  you don't want your child getting into the gun case, so you make sure to keep the keys away from them, make sure the case is secure, and generally teach them to stay safe.  you don't want your dog getting out of the yard, so you make sure your fence is high enough, you get a decent leash, and you generally train your dog well.  both scenarios, outside of an infiniteismal minority of super-specific cases, can easily be kept safe by being generally aware and responsible as the person who owns either.

You're talking to a parent and I can tell you that a dog and a small child do not compare as well as you think because children are a whole hellofa lot more unpredictable than any pet thats for sure. I understand your brown townogy though, and I agree that most of the time it's the owners fault when it comes to these types of animal attacks

IMO, all large dogs outta be on a choke chain or have an electric collar so they cannot escape the property as easily/at all

[Nix the Glaceon]

pitbulls are bad

[GreenBH³]

pitbulls are fine

if you think otherwise then explain to me why that's correct

[Woof]

I'm not building ultra-specific scenarios (unless you consider a dog digging under a fence ultra specific). You do understand that dogs can dig under fences, right? That means it could escape without the owner knowing, and go bite someone if it wasn't on a leash, which some owners do not do if their yard is fenced in. Hence why I asked to begin with why the dog in torins link was not on a leash.

You're talking to a parent and I can tell you that a dog and a small child do not compare as well as you think because children are a whole hellofa lot more unpredictable than any pet thats for sure. I understand your brown townogy though, and I agree that most of the time it's the owners fault when it comes to these types of animal attacks

IMO, all large dogs outta be on a choke chain or have an electric collar so they cannot escape the property as easily/at all

If your dog escapes your property, you should seriously rethink how you treat it

[Bisjac]

i hate all dogs. we all know (or you are this person) that pathetic guy that needs to rush home after work to let his dog out before it stuffs on the carpet. and that is your life. never having plans, always needing to call others in the household to double check on the dog issue.

and god forbid you have a spaz dog that you need to walk/play its energy out otherwise it tears up your house. good investment.


cats are a decoration when you dont need them and they otherwise take care of themselves, and they are super cool when you are down for a cuddle.

forget dogs

[Tactical Nuke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJY__GwZp-E

a 175-pound pitbull trained specifically to take down adults is allowed to walk around with his owner in the most crowded city in the world and he bites absolutely no one

the most he does is piss and stuff everywhere

[Insert Name Here²]

i hate all dogs. we all know (or you are this person) that pathetic guy that needs to rush home after work to let his dog out before it stuffs on the carpet. and that is your life. never having plans, always needing to call others in the household to double check on the dog issue.

and god forbid you have a spaz dog that you need to walk/play its energy out otherwise it tears up your house. good investment.


cats are a decoration when you dont need them and they otherwise take care of themselves, and they are super cool when you are down for a cuddle.

forget dogs

agree